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Ireland not impacted by Cyprus’ bailout deal – Kenny

Banks in Cyprus remain closed as discussions continue on the terms of the proposed bailout deal.

A protestor with his child hold a banner outside of parliament during a crucial meeting in capital Nicosia, Cyprus, yesterday.
A protestor with his child hold a banner outside of parliament during a crucial meeting in capital Nicosia, Cyprus, yesterday.
Image: Petros Karadjias/AP/Press Association Images

TAOISEACH ENDA KENNY has sought to reassure Irish people that the Cyprus bailout will have no impact on Ireland.

Speaking in Washington, the Irish Examiner is reporting that Taoiseach Enda Kenny described the Cypriot situation as “a different and unique case” and that it would have no impact on Ireland.

Fianna Fáil’s finance spokesperson Michael McGrath said that the bailout proposals set “a dangerous precedent across the euro zone”, adding that it undermined the confidence of investors.

Discussions are continuing in Cyprus on whether the proposed one-off levy on savings within banks should be amended. MPs are due to vote on the bailout deal at 4pm Irish time.

The bailout proposes that Eurozone countries will offer €10 billion in emergency funding, with Cyprus due to come up with another €7 billion itself.

It is the way in which this €7 billion is to be taken from savings, however, that has led to fears throughout other bailed out countries as to the safety of banking deposits.

McGrath has questioned what will now happen should Ireland’s banks need more money in the future:

Irish depositors will legitimately ask how safe their money is if it transpires that Irish banks need more money to absorb losses on mortgages and business loans.

Read: Cyprus tries to renegotiate deposit tax ahead of vote on bailout deal >

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Comments (50 Comments)

  • Cyprus is special,Ireland is special doesn’t inspire confidence i’m afraid.This move on small depositors in Cyprus was one of the most stupid desicions the EU has made to date.

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    • Chris 19/03/13 #

      Too true they are really showing their true colours now

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    • Remember years ago bank employees labtops kept getting stolen wit information about accounts And personal details on the hard drive? Hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm is their any geniuses out there that can figure out why this happened? Numerous times too.

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    • Jenny well said the person that made the decision to tax savings must be up there in that ivory tower with kenny and gilmore,

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    • @leonard
      I have no idea what kind of conspiracy you are suggesting.
      People losing laptops when out is pretty straight forward. Unlikely any data was ever retrieved or targeted.

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    • Not losing. Stolen. Aib, Boi, Anglo all happened to them. Look into it while i adjust my tin foil hat:-D

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    • They are going after the russians money,they are using the banks there to launder there funny money.

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    • A lot of the labtops weren’t encrypted and had account details on them.
      Serious tho ask yourself if you where in the “know” would these account details be useful to ye?

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    • Why not spell out what you are claiming.
      You think the EU have to steal info in order to what?
      You will get people to be suspicious but I don’t get what of.

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    • Stealing info, to systematically wage economic warfare on nations who are susceptible to a good owl fashioned robbery. They have to make the money back that they gave us for our various projects, hospitals, public transport, motorways etc.

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    • Noonan chaired the meeting that made the decision, I’d say he was the first with his hand in the air when the vote went in. They wanted to take 40% fro accounts but thought this might be going a little too far..and the statement from this shower was stomach churning they agreed with it as it was the lesser of 2 evils. We get it taken every week in the form if USC from our paypackets and what do we do? Nothing as usual, this country makes me sick

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    • The SS is long gone these days. Russian businessmen and organised criminals having a tax-haven in which they can dictate and which is inside the EU is something for EU countries to be rightly worried about.

      There is a lot of talk about a nation’s sovereignty over the past months. Cyprus may lose their sovereignty though a bail-out deal with the EU bi-wigs, but they definitely lose their soveignity through a exclusively Russian bail-out. If it’s a choice of who will be their new master, Russia may not be the safer option.

      The other point that, if it were a choice of owing €17 million to the ECB / ESM ( as originally applied for ), and owing €10 million to the EU instruments with the bank depositor levy and national asset sale, which would be more damaging to the long-term sovereignty of the country?

      There’s been a big u-turn in the opinions of the regular commenters here, as up until now they’ve taken a very clear stance of “owing more = bad”, but one this issue it has been completely reversed.

      For example, if the banks had not been recapitalised in Ireland, it would be inevitable that the depositors would have been hit, retrospective guarantee or no. But this is put forward as a more preferable option to what had actually happened.

      So why is it considered wrong that Cyprus tries to minimise the amount it must borrow from the EU to stay afloat?

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  • If Cyprus is to have no impact on Ireland then why have all the major news outlets basically said that the Cyprus bailout has proved to be a massive F**kup and people everywhere are now worried that the hard earned money that they have saved in banks might be better off hidden in their mattress’s or in non Euro-zone banks. If it can happen in Cyprus it can happen everywhere.

    The Russians are set to lose a lot of their money on deposit so they may well pull their money from Cyprus banks fearing that they may get hit again. As 2/3′s of all money in Cypriot banks is Russian in origin it may well lead to a run on Cypriot banks. That means another bailout, then bank tax, then market volatility and so on.

    I can just see one of Kenny’s ancestors saying in June 1914 ” Sure the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand will have no impact on Ireland. It is a unique case and will not affect us or Europe!”

    I see Enda’s birthday is coming up on April 24th. I must remember to send him a pack of domino’s and an instruction manual.

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  • A levy on savings? What a unique idea! Now why didn’t the Irish government think of that first? Those Russians, using Cyprus as a tax haven, will be mightily annoyed.

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  • German banks are running Europe now and we will just have to see what they have in store for us if we need another bailout. Maybe the Government should roll Gilmore out again with his Labours way speech

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  • Ah well is enda says it then it must be true, sure he wouldn’t lie to us….oh wait it’s the other way around doesn’t tell the truth….must get to the bank and take all my money out oh that’s right squat there.

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  • If kenny says it won’t have any impact on Ireland then that means we are in trouble.
    I wouldn’t believe the Lords prayer out of their mouths.
    “once a liar”

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  • OU812 19/03/13 #

    Not sure why, but I can’t 100% trust what politicians say.

    Buying a safe today. Cash withdrawals tomorrow.

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  • Who in their right mind would keep savings in any Eurozone bank? A line has been crossed and as far as I am concerned my money will no longer remain in any eurozone bank, it is after all MY money.

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  • Im keeping my money out of the bank and after all we did for them.

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  • I have as much confidence in that statement as Lenihan’s “Cheapest bailout in Europe”.

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  • Savings. Ha. Im laughing here. Best paying into your mortgage. You loose big time with savings. Inflation. Interest saved on mortgage. Now we will see all the smart arses come out of the woodwork. The “clever” ones who “knew” that there was a crash coming. Who “knew” property prices were inflated. Who “knew” there would be a better time to spend their hard earnings. Now even the clever savers are fair game. Maybe now we may unite against the illegal activity of the govts of Europe. When they take your savings, houses, taxes. Your money is safe nowhere now. I have none left but that does not stop them taking it. Now they will take from the ones who have a little or a little bit more but never the ones with a lot.

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  • Kenny has said that the Cyprus affair will have no impact on Ireland so OVBIOUSLY that means that the Cyprus affair will have no impact on Ireland

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  • The difference between Ireland and Cyprus is that as tax havens, the thieves don’t rob their own loot, Russians are fair game.

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  • We dont believe you Kenny.

    Even when the IMF team were on the plane to Ireland to negotiate the bailout, FF were still trying to hoodwind the people. Aherne and Dempsey, were wheeled out – “bailout, what bailout?”

    FF bankrupted this country and now they top the polls! I totally depair the Irish people

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  • We should start a run on the banks here for a laugh

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  • Has anyone asked these so called leaders why their seismic, game changing promise to separate banking from sovereign debt has been completely reneged on?
    Liars liars liars.

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  • But can we believe a liar?

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  • Sure dont we pay 30% dirt on savings! Fleesed

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  • at least we know michael and enda dont have any money in cyprus !

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  • Michael McGrath, Michael Martin and Fianna Fáil ruined this country – and now McGrath is in the business of scaremongering??? Give me a break.

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    • Thats the problem in Ireland .. No one listens to the message but slams the messenger. Fact is that a precedent is being set and Irish banks most likely are still not tellimy the truth. Two pillar banks that can’t be believed is not a basis of growth.

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    • You’re right – that’s a far worse problem than making stuff up with no basis of fact – just like what yourself and Michael McGrath did there!

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    • Each to their own Paul; a precedent is being set. Why would it not be used should Irish banks need more money. They haven’t covered themselves with glory in past number if years. FF & FG are pretty much the same thing to me.

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  • Lets all move to Russia and get it over with

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  • sean 19/03/13 #

    Go away enda , you can,t even lie without bullsh1tting ,

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  • you’r not taoiseach kenny.and nobody believes a word out of your mouth.

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  • now is this the real reason bank guarantee is ending not enough money to cover losses from mortgages right lets take their savings good man Noonan

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  • Deposits in Irish banks cannot be targeted because of the bank guarantee. All deposits are guaranteed by the Irish state until the guarantee runs out. No need to be afraid (until the banking guarantee runs out of course).

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    • sean 19/03/13 #

      If merkel and the imf want to impose this , they will , they won,t let abank gaurantee get in the way ………its complete and utter bullying a serious weapon used time and again in this financial warfare (WWIII if u ask me , with the markets as the battlefield) , getting extremely rich the ultimate goal

      Nothing is safe ,
      Cyprus may well reject this draconian measure (and look for russia to bail them out ……….for the price of a %of cyprus untapped gas reserves ) , = 2fingers to merkel and co

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