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THE PRESIDENT OF the European Council has appeared to back Ireland’s push for a cut on the interest rate it pays on its European Union/International Monetary Fund bailout.
Herman Van Rompuy was speaking to reporters at a rain-soaked press conference following bilateral discussions with Taoiseach Enda Kenny in Dublin today.
He said “we need a deal” in relation to Ireland’s push for an interest rate reduction, RTÉ reports.
Getting a deal has proved more difficult to achieve then was first anticipated by the current government with talk of a one per cent cut on the 5.8 per cent Ireland pays on the bailout being downgraded to a possible cut of 0.6 per cent.
Discussions between the Taoiseach and the former Belgian prime minister – on his first trip to Ireland – have focused on the issues on the agenda of the June European Council next week as well as other economic issues.
Van Rompuy is due to meet president Mary McAleese at Áras an Uachtaráin later today as well as address the Institute of International and European Affairs, and visit Trinity College in Dublin.
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The time to move was two weeks ago
@Mel Fitzpatrick: where did you do your medical training Mel? Did you specialize in the control of global pandemics?
@Mel Fitzpatrick: Do tell, are you as qualified as the good Dr? If you were in control with all the facts at your hands, would you have waited until now or do you have the same gut instinct as Trump?
@Mel Fitzpatrick: I’m going to side with the experts on this one and not urself. Hats off to all involved, from the Dail to the front line worker’s. “Ni neart go cur le cheile”.
@Mel Fitzpatrick: EXACTLY
@Mel Fitzpatrick: Thanks Mel thats a very useful comment
@Emma Dobbyn: being a medical expert is trumped by being an economics adviser.
@Peter McGlynn: ireland Inc.
@Mel Fitzpatrick: if there was work in the bed Mel I’d say you would sleep on the floor, typical shinners comment
@Peter McGlynn: Peter why are you always against main stream opinions? Do you have the inside scoop on how to fix the Covid 19 nobody knows, I for you need to have a job to pay my bills in “Ireland inc” as you call it! Unfortunately for the government to pay for the social welfare in this country they need tax payers not just tax spongers
@Tim Otoole: Social or corporate?
@Daniel Kelly: both!!
@Emma Dobbyn: Have you got a medical qualification to state otherwise?
@Mel Fitzpatrick: Great to see we have people who are on the journal who know more than the experts. The amount of armchair medics is staggering.
@Emma Dobbyn: watch yourself here Emma. Lots of medical experts around these parts
@The Exhibition Guy – Stephan Murtagh: what degree does harris have. Talk about being brain washed. Any fool could have told you that this was too late. Letting 3000 Italian fans here was idiotic. But yeah, why not blame the bystander that had the right to criticise.
@Mel Fitzpatrick: Well said, Mel. In fact, when they cancelled the Ireland v Italy game, was the time to stop flights from Italy, and commence lockdown. Friends it Italy cannot understand why we waited so long.
@Mel Fitzpatrick: Ah good old Mel.Can you also send me next week euro millions numbers? Only I live in the real world and the money trees don’t seem to be bearing fruit.
@Emma Dobbyn: do you think all decisions were taken purely on a medical basis? All over the country people were worried about the people coming back from Cheltenham, if it was obvious to them it should have been obvious to experts. That’s of course assuming all decisions were taken on a, welfare of the people stance. It can even be brought back to the Ireland Italy game, and the fact the Italian fans still came over then. What was the expert medical advice then from the control of global paramedics committee.
@The Exhibition Guy – Stephan Murtagh: what global pandemic experts are you referring too. This is of course assuming that all the experts contributing to the decisions made, came from a medical background. It’s a bit early in the day to start clapping people on the back when we don’t even know where this will end. When was it too soon to act.
@Emma Dobbyn: as much as the good doctor has experience of working on building sites ! Seen his press conference he stuttering and advising it was possible for social distance whilst working on building sites . That was the greatest load of bo##ks I’ve ever heard .
This contagion stays alive on surfaces form hours to days depending on the surface . Public transport was a mass spreader , the doctor was wrong just a mouthpiece for Leo .
This disease knows no boundary’s it’s unpredictable and you should never try predict the unpredictable , you do the unpredictable and the shut down has come too late and the contagion well out of control & watch the number of fatality increase daily ,the old in care homes , the sick , the homeless & the underprivileged . Leo and co have failed and failed us
@Emma Dobbyn: Bull…you dont need to be an expert to see the obvious. This is clearly economics over the people who have and will die during the pandemic. The evidence from Italy was there for all to see.
@Eugene Foley: all the early cases were from Irish people returning from Italy. As for Cheltenham the irish people going to and from. The government doesn’t have the power to stop stupid
I gave Simon Harris my Number two in the last election. I imagine he got a transfer off me. People were not happy when Wicklow returned him but maybe that tune is changing.
@Modern Irish Dad: Speaking of maybe’s. Maybe he should have closed the airport’s and ports straight away after the first case reached our Island? Maybe this would have contained the spread in Ireland?
@Mark Edwards: so who do you think is the right person for the job then?
@Modern Irish Dad: I know lots of people who would do a better job than him. He’s been a complete disaster. Seriously you can’t remember several votes on no confidence in him? You can’t remember the cervical check or over run on the children’s hospital to name a few? This is typical Irishness. This could be a great country but people like SH waste so much with their foolishness.
@Modern Irish Dad: not a time for points scoring. In my opinion he didn’t deserve to be re-elected but he’s still there now and handling this crisis as well as could be expected.
@Mark Edwards: Mr Edwards you are correct. Yet he has shown some decorum in the last number of days.
@Aidan: I’m sorry if you thought I was trying to point score. I suppose my declaration of my number 2 vote was rather bold. But I was only trying to make the point that he appears to be doing a good job in regards to the ongoing pandemic. And that people from Wicklow took a lot of slack for putting him back in. He needed a lot of redistributed votes to get over the line.
@Modern Irish Dad: All he’s doing is acting on the expert medical advice he is given. He then relays that to us and we act accordingly (or most of us do). Great. He can parrot information. Doesn’t mean he or his party should be forgiven for the absolute mess they have made of our health services over the past 8-10yrs.
@Tommy Roche: this is what I don’t understand then. If he is acting on behalf of the experts advice why are so many people giving out about the government only going into lockdown now?
@Modern Irish Dad: Thanks for sharing that MID ??????
@Modern Irish Dad: They have failed us on so many fronts & it’s not up for debate.The reacted to late for a pandemic virus that knows no boundary’s , that’s unpredictable and now we pay with death . And that’s the bottom line . They failed us they didn’t lead from the front the way leaders do and make big decisions . They made late deceisions that will cost large numbers of our people passing on , and this should not be forgotten . Leo & Simon and Doctor Tony failed us the Irish people as whole .
I want to see the back of this Goverment after this and put a government in that actually works for the people.
@Modern Irish Dad: Why????????
@Seosamh Snr Nolan: Mr Nolan in your opinion then do you believe they are not following a plan that has been discussed with scientific experts from all around the world? Do you think they are that bad?
@Pauline Fedigan: why did I give him my number 2?
@Frank Mc Caffery: Hello Frank, not sure I understand what you’re trying to say. Not being rude or anything I just don’t get what mid?????? is. This may be my own fault as I find it hard to keep up with text talk.
@Modern Irish https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/27/saudi-arabia-clear-response-to-the-coronavirus-outbreak-is-in-stark-contrast-to-west-view
@Seosamh Snr Nolan: not sure many in Turkey would agree with some of the points made in this article.
@Modern Irish Dad: Also don’t forget it is a country that people may be fearful of a beheading if they break curfew. Not saying it would happen but it may be on people’s mind. So it’s not just solidarity that might be at play.
@Modern Irish Dad: though I am sure it is solidarity too.
@Aidan: after all simple Simon did get re-elected…after the 15th count!!! Only in Ireland.
@Mark Edwards: and what would those isish doctors and nurses coming home to help with do, swim from Canada and Australia?
The irish government have followed the medical advice every step on this journey yet you know better?
@Tommy Roche: or he could do what trump and Boris done and ignored the advice.
@Modern Irish Dad: Saudi Arabia is the most progressive country in the world at this current time ! You can’t comment if it’s only the media you rely on !
@Seosamh Snr Nolan: I think it’s sad it had to end this way Mr Nolan I was enjoying our back and forward but we are just miles apart now that no good will come from us continuing our conversation. I hope you stay safe and I wish you well.
Well done Leo ye are doing a great job and I’m not a Fine Gael man these are huge decisions that ye have been making ,
At the start of this people were worried about the few bob they were losing on a holiday and some of them went to northern Italy looking back wasn’t it pathetic,
All these health care workers doctors and nurses coming home to go to war with a killer wow ,
Talk about pride in your country I salute ye ,
Health care workers when this is over need their wages doubled true heroes ,
Where are all these celebrities in hiding , perspective these people are the role models our kids should be following
Regards
@Paddy Dunne: what was more pathetic was government allowing flights back from Northern Italy without bothering to take any measures for those coming in.
@Toon Army: If only you were running the country I’m sure things would be just great.
@Toon Army: agreed that was a mistake but I’d be more furious with the people from Italy who came over how many people have they consigned to the grave , I would not like to have that on my conscience, also the parents who allowed their kids to go skiing to northern Italy , knowing that people were dying out there and bringing it home earlier than it should have , they will have to live with these decisions, government can only do so much people have to make decisions too we are not sheep
@Ricky Spanish: would it be worse? You can wait a few weeks to answer. When the death toll will be clearer.
@Paddy Dunne: Hardly
@Paddy Dunne: whoever called us a nation of thick Paddys was right. Unbelievable.
Stay safe and virtual hugs to everyone…its now we have to be there for each other
@Damien: give Damien more green thumbs lads, that gave me a laugh
Well why was people not tested as the head of WHO SAID TEST TEST TEST I HAVE FRIENDS AFTER 5 DAYS WAITING FOR TESTS ?
@Alison Corcoran: what?
@Alison Corcoran: WHAT
@Alison Corcoran: what are you talking about? We are testing 4,500 people per day. They changed they criteria because they were getting poor results actually beyond poor 6% positive. That means 94% of people tested didn’t need to be tested.
@Alison Corcoran: who is giving thumbs up to this
@Alison Corcoran: When ranting, punctuation is your friend. Unless you particularly want to appear to be demented…
@johnny onion eye: I miss the old way where you could thumbs down a comment.
@Alison Corcoran: STOP SHOUTING!!!
@Jason Pierce: The Who want extensive testing to map the clusters. They know there’ll loads of negatives, they’ve been very clear about it.
@Jason Pierce: they might have been waiting so long they no longer had it
@Cormac Laffan: I saw them in the Marquee in 2007, some gig
@Alison Corcoran: you should be on dublin live. You make journal.ie posters look good !!
@Crocodylus Pontifex: Oops, the WHO. Obviously there’s no negative results with The Who.
STAY AT HOME !!!!! Even the joggers and cyclists STAY AT HOME YE MUPPETS.!!!!!!
@Stan Kowalskis: cycling is basically banned. I guarantee you we will still see them out and about the place.
@Mark Walsh: what if you cycle to work?
@Da Vid: are you employed in an essential role????
@Mark Walsh: no it’s not
@Mark Walsh: cycling is not banned Mark
@Mark Walsh: can both of you not read basic english ? It is perfectly fine to go out and exercise within 2km of your home – but hey don’t let that stop ya having a good whinge – stay safe everyone – but consider maybe taking a break from social media if all ya wana do is have a moan and whinge about who or what you don’t like in the world
@Dave Hammond: Unless yr cycling to essential work wtf is the point of cycling within 2km of yr home?
It was time 3/4 weeks ago to stop Italian travel
It was time 2 weeks ago to stop Cheltenham travel or very least enforce and fine or not followed self isolation for returning travellers
It was time 2 months ago to ban Chinese Iranian and Korean travel
@Sk19: hear hear!
@Sk19: would you stop harping on about Italy Cheltenham. This was rampant in China, they covered up official figures, poor Italy first open country to deal with it, genie out of bottle at that stage. It was probably already in Ireland in Jan as patient zero in UK thinks he got it then from a ski trip in Austria. NZ are trying a lock down strategy but wolf is outside door and doors and windows are boarded up. You still gotta go outside. Buying time for a vaccine is best hope else 2 years of lock down release lock down cycles while ICU turns over new victims :-(
I’m moving to skellig Michael nó. Kountz allowed
@Frank Discussion: Offshore island visits banned. Are you a good swimmer?
Speaking to friends who are frontline in hospitals in Dublin and Cork please please stay home. They are working so hard under extremely difficult conditions. Yes the Government could have moved much more quickly as they knew since Dec but didn’t so we just have to deal with it and do our best. Doctors and nurses are risking their lives for us so the least we can do is simply do as they are asking us to do and STAY HOME
Can anyone tell me is having asthma considered to put you in the group of vulnerable persons
@Keith k: yes it is a lung issue
@Keith k: yes
@Keith k: severe asthma is on the list of people who should cocoon
@Keith k: it depends if you have mild asthma or not. Best to phone your GP
Tony Holohan doing a fantastic job.
@Katherine: you mean the guy implicated in the cervical cancer and children’s hospital overrun scandals? Should have been sacked years ago. #nointegrity #nocredibility
Right call.
Were is the list ??????
@Karllye kripton: not being published untill the morning or so I am told
@Modern Irish Dad: Should be out NOW… People going to work tomorrow, unsure whether they should be or not. Crazy really!!
@Willie Murphy: How right you are. gov.ie will put it up in the morning what time exactly, I am not sure.
@Karllye kripton: https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/
@Willie Murphy: https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/
@Modern Irish Dad: https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/
Can anyone tell me why orthopaedic implant manufacturing is deemed essential? Surely no ortho implant surgery’s are taking place anywhere at the mo? And most likely after this, with the downturn in the economy will not be top of any priority list??
I wonder how many big companies will consider themselves “essential”. Was talking to a friend a couple hours ago, and he was spitting tacks because he works in a hanger in Shannon and they are staying open because the higher ups have determined that they are an “essential” service even though there is no aircraft in there fit to fly for at least a few weeks
@Joe_X: supply chain. The key is in the second word, chain. Lots of essential businesses to keep society and hospitals going. Not just the obvious
@Nioe: I understand that, but it has to be useful link in the chain. In my friend’s case, if I understood him correctly, most of the airlines have parked many of their planes, except the likes of DHL freighters etc. He said the planes where he is would not be in a position to fly for a couple of weeks and the owners have planes parked up that they can use sooner if they needed, so his company is not actually a useful link in the chain. A taxi driver would be a useful link if taking a doctor to the hospital where he works. The taxi driver’s mechanic would then be a useful link as he keeps the car going if needed. But if the mechanic said that the parts for the taxi would not be there for a few days, he is no longer a useful link, unless working on another car that provides a useful link.
@Joe_X: So if that was to happen, the mechanic should stay at home and not work on say the local ice cream man’s van. A lot of big companies might try staying open under the “essential” banner, but if really looked at, are not essential and are really trying to minimize losses.
@Joe_X: Need to fix airplanes for step down. For example deflate tyres. GOOGLE it.
And the airports STILL open
The people working in shops on the minimum wage are considered an essential service. These people also deserve a lot more pay if they survive this pandemic.
Kbc bank opened as a essential service. Haha the only customers in, are bored people checking their balance.
Maybe the time for these moves was before italian fans came in their hundreds to Dublin and gombeens in their thousands went to Cheltenham.
I hope these experts are right and do not make a bad situation worse
My mother was in extreme pain for 2 years until she got her hips replaced. If people have to wait 6 months longer in her condition after the dust settles when this is over then yeah I’d say its essential.
Only in Ireland. This guy should have gone after the #cervicalcancerscandal.
Would anyone know, I live in Donabate but my nearest Aldi/Tesco is in swords which is further than the 2km we’re allowed travel, does that mean I can’t go to those shops now?
@Suzanne Bell: The 2km limit applies to people leaving their home for exercise. You are allowed go out to shop for food.
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