If that were the case, surely each new android release would get equal billing?

As far as I can see, that doesn’t happen:)

Fragmentation, the is a new Android phone out every other week, there is a new Iphone only once a year.

Agreed. I was talking about the OS specifically though-sorry if I didn’t make that clear.

Well said Alan, probably the most intelligent comment on a smartphone based article The Journal have ever published. I’m getting a bit tired of the Android Brotherhood and iFans with their propaganda, doing exactly what Google, Samsung and Apple want. Its just a phone, I like mine,m you like yours – who cares!

Some people follow sports, I follow mobile technology. You don’t go bitching about people having a favourite football team do you?
It’s just a bit of fun, especially when I’m right :-D

@paul Are you really comparing mobile phones to football?

nope.

Well said. Some people prefer one phone, some prefer other phones. Big deal.

My phone is better than your phone

Sent from my iPhone

The point is they are new features from apple for customers who use iPhone so of course we want to hear what they are , if they are new features for iPhone I don’t see the big deal that some are features other phones might have already , if you using iPhone your not using other phones ,and we get it – some of you don’t like apple but FFS plenty of people do because the stuff is pretty good , idiotic commentary like they want to make money is irrelevant , why in the name of Jaysus would they build a global business and not want to make money…

Apple intentionally make their products to work only with other apple products! Whereas the Galaxy or HTC phones work with other products and are jusst generally better pieces of tech!

HTC phones have had tight social network integration for years now.

Good man Aidan.

It’s just a bit of fun.

Android has been ‘bigger’ for about 18 months now

Someone missed the point

You’re just expecting too much.

Brilliant …Can’t beat the 5110 though.

I love it!

Every company is all about money. Seriously stupid comment.

Also it’s not the iPhone 5, it’s the OS. Duh.

Stupid is as stupid does Pete ;)

A company about making money? Well holy god. You’re right though, Nokia and RIM don’t seem that interested. I’ve been using iOS 6 on iPhone 4S and iPad 2 for a month or so and it’s the business. Leaves every other mobile/tablet device I have used in the dirt.

@jim I’ve been testing the iOS 6 at work and besides a few “pretty features” that took about 10 minutes to do and 2 years to sue everyone over; not much else was added. It may as well be called the iOS 5s

Paul, I’ve been using it in work along with the new OS X for a month and along with iCloud it creates a great set of options, many of which I can also access on windows 7 which I have installed on one iMac.

Haven’t seen a windows phone yet myself. Any use?

…and justify it to everyone.

“once you Apple, you never go back”

Or you’ll have to admit you’ve been suckered.

Damocles,

Far superior pieces of technology. I bought my iMac 5 years ago, it’s still better than anything Windows can churn out today.

But hey! Down with big corporations and all that, eh?

Apple is a big corporation.

Rubbish. Have both Apple and Android products here. Apple is all about extracting as much cash as possible for a similiar, yet limited product; they are the Ryanair of the mobile device world, except they charge Etihad prices, and to stretch the analogy slightly, would expect credit card info before you even got on to their website to price a flight.

Bought an iTouch 4 a year ago. Since then I bought a custom-built PC and a HTC One-V phone to replace an old Nokia. Notice how I went apple and have been doing as much as I can to avoid it since?

Apple is overpriced and overrated.

Tried an iphone 4s for three months, it was an absolute piece of shit even compared to the HTC wildfire I was using about 2 years ago. Thankfully I am rid of it and am very happily using an S3. I must be the exception to your “once you go apple” rule

Who make far superior products than anything Samsung or Windows can churn out. Do you not think there’s a reason they’re are the wealthiest company in the world? People don’t buy Apple because they think they’re the new ‘IT’ product. It’s because they’re lengths ahead of the competition.

Anyway lads, I’ll be eagerly awaiting Wednesday’s announcement. Enjoy the Android, I’m sure it performs just as well… Ish. :)

A quick google search, if you even bothered instead of making up s***e, shows that Apple isn’t even in the top 40 most wealthy companies by revenue.

Tesco had more revenue last year than Apple. Think about that for a second.

Jason,

I must have missed the part where Tesco was worth $600bn. Darn! Time to go back to the Google machine….

Jason double check your stats. They are one of the largest in terms of market capitalisation and just surpassed Microsoft. They also have more cash that the US government

More cash than the US government? I would really like to see your sources to back that up.

@jason. Try this. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-07-28/tech/30049957_1_cash-balance-apple-debt-ceiling.

More cash in the bank than the US Government. Which is not surprising.

Dublinlad who makes most of the components inside an apple??? Ya samsung,anyway this new ios looks a bit shite,wow a do not disturb,could do that on a nokia 5110

If Apple wanted to buy out their competitors for giggles, they could.
In terms of laptops, Apple are far and away superior to anything any other manufacturer can provide. The fact that you don’t need to start turning off firewalls or anti-virus screens in order to use emulators really is superior to anything Windoze can ever provide.
You don’t buy Apple products because they are attractive, you buy them because they are simple to use. They don’t send errors every 2 seconds because you’re doing something it doesn’t like – it just does it.

@dublin. There is more OS’s out there besides Mac, I’m a hardcore Linux fan. Its light, fast and I can do what I like! When you try that for 6 months try even having 1. Ounce of respect for Mac.

It’s actually ‘once you go mac, you never go back’ not ‘once you go Apple’ lol.

I’ve got a macbook, I had to install windows 7 on it because of the networking problems with Snow Leopard, can’t update to Lion because in typical Apple fashion all the music software I paid nearly 700 euro for is not supported in Lion.
I love the hardware, but this is the last Apple product I’ll be buying.
You can’t even upgrade the new macbooks- what a joke!
The only thing I’m actually seriously going to miss is the trackpad, best trackpad I’ve ever used, but I’ll get a few more years out of it yet, running Windows.

@Micheal: Apple is simple to use, hence why I recommend it to those considered to be “techtards”. As for no need for firewalls or antivirus; I know, its a hackers dream. Takes about 5 minutes to crack into a mac and take anything you may have on it. When I see a Mac on a network, I just think “Oh Boy, Christmas!!”.

@Dublinlad72. Have used the iPhone 4s. Sorry, but I wouldn’t swap my S3 for any apple product! In fairness to the iPhone, it works. I love the silence button. But that’s it. Samsung just eats it for breakfast!

That is friggen brilliant!! Why I didn’t think of that ages ago I don’t know. Could have made myself a pretty buck.

Not quite sure what gmail has to do with it, but I’ve foun myself drifting back toward hotmail/outlook.com.

Better interface, smoother & faster.

I was responding to picture 15.

iOS 6 will be a free upgrade. The article quite clearly about the OS and not a new phone.

Completely agree. So many cool features. It will take 5-10 years before Apple has the totally “unique” and “amazing” idea of home screen widgets or iWidgets as they will say. Post to Facebook from notifications….pfht. I’ve been able to do it from my home screen for the last 3 years.

Wow. Just wow.

These aren’t the fan droids I was looking for.

//wave hand.

Mad!! all those INSANE improvements that android has had literally FOR YEARS!!!
Seriousl though, android has all of that, and most of it is well over a year old.
I’ve had social network integration for over two years now.

Where did the journal copy and paste this from? They didn’t even try to hide it by changing the word fall to autumn. Lazy lazy journalism

Steve,

If you look at the author section right about where you’ve written this comment, it says that it has been reproduced with the permission of Business Insider.

Hugh

At last a bit of antipathy towards Apple…………..all of this Apple hype is a bloody pain in the arse. No doubt ut will make TV news on Sept.12

What’s wrong with saying fall anyway?

Samsung Galaxy 3 has much higher spec

Fall is an older name than autumn in English. European English adopted the French word automne but US English retained the original name.

Its utter dribble. Its the same old and as for the bew trimmings…. what new trimmings, its been on other platforms for years i.e. Android.

They love anything Apple related on here. For those drooling over the new features, most, if not all are available on a bog standard Android device.

I wouldn’t mind it so much if they had a section devoted to technology along with news and sports. Articles about new games, new phones and new computers similar to the Nu.nl news app.

But posting only Apple related updates and the failures of competitors such as Nokia is very unbalanced on a solely news website.

Maybe adding a new section for tech articles is worth looking in to?

Good idea, Jason. They can indulge their cut n’ paste adulation all they like, then :)

And, those of us who find all the Apple love a bit excessive will have other articles to read.

Maybe someone from the Journal can respond on whether they can consider this?

I’ll admit that I have one, but tbh I find the whole apple v android thing kinda silly.. Each one has pluses and each one has minuses.. I don’t get the fan boy behaviour from either side – why argue over who has the best phone, it’s so pointless!! (it’s like people arguing over Nokia vs Motorola or Siemens way back when) people will always go with what they feel most comfortable with, less technically minded people will probably go apple because it’s simple and unless jailbroken it’s pretty much “on rails”, those with more tech sense will prefer android for its customisability and freedom.

Having said that, I too notice a very obvious bias toward apple here on the journal and agree a dedicated tech section would be welcome.

“This is fact…..” Brilliant. You have to laugh.

Sheep buy phones? Deadly

Get off the high horse.

As someone who ran a business and learned quite a bit about marketing, i can assure you nearly every penny you spend is a direct result of marketing manipulation.

To put it simply, other people know more about why you buy a product than you even do yourself.

Also, you’re the only one here talking about life changes as a result of a phone, no one else is.
We’re all just commenting because it’s an entertaining debate.

Who says technology can’t be art, just because you’re not interested in it doesn’t make those that are “shallow and uninteresting”.
Who here is claiming to define themselves on a piece of technology??
Anyone who’s really into the technology doesn’t give a crap about marketing, they’ll get dug into the specifications and judge each device on it’s merits!
They’ll then proceed to rip the piss out of everyone else who uses inferior technology. :-D
All good.

@Aiden — entertaining debate? Seriously? This is a debate? From here it looks like two tribes of monkeys fecking rocks at each other and thumping their chests.

I’ll be the one scrolling to the end of the page and shaking my head slowly in despair at what stupidity another dumb Business Insider “article” has propagated.

*sigh* @Adrian, even. My unnamed phone’s Journal app doesn’t allow me to see your post as I reply. Apols.

I agree!! I saw the video of the new iPhone booting up. All it is, is a phone 2mm thinner and the screen is a tiny bit longer!! That’s it! No imagination.

I wouldn’t give one to my cat.

Actually I don’t even have a cat. I wouldn’t give one to your cat.

What’s a cat going to do with a mobile phone anyway?

Cat’s purrf-er tablets, phones are too small.

I jail broke my old iPod the second I opened it, none of that Apple looking over your shoulder stuff.

This can’t be it though, they have to be keeping something secret.

“plastic crap” that one always makes me laugh. The 1st thing anyone with an iphone does is cover it up with a big ignorant case and screen protector.
It could be made from melted tayto packets and you wouldn’t know.
I think apple fans are attracted to the “shiny shiny box”.

I have to admit, at present I’m trying to decide between the 4S, G3, or One X, and the thing that makes me second guess the android offerings is the handsets.

I read the CNet reviews to see which was best, they put all three on a level footing. Some features are better on one but another has different better features, and the third has its own strengths, levelling them out. They reckoned the only difference was personal preference.

Personally, I prefer the size with the androids, a slightly bigger screen would be nice. The S3 has expandable memory which is also a big plus. As far as the One X goes, depending on which site I view it’s either quad or dual core – I’m finding the lack of consistent information quite galling, also, the other half has a HTC – and as good as it looked for specs at the time, it’s got lots of stupid impracticalities that no one mentioned (like how the internal memory is low and most apps couldn’t be moved to SD card meaning it clogged up quick), plus the handset has several issues, such as the camera gets fogged up and the mic only works on speakerphone or when taking video. Plus photos with the flash look terrible (even though the camera is better than the 3GS one – mind you, it doesn’t have a flash!!), so this also makes me wary of the One X.

But the big thing was how they feel in my hand. Was playing with a friends S3 last night and it felt really cheap, like it could snap in your pocket. It was really light and almost slippy – I could see me dropping it a lot. It felt like a shop display replica without the weight inside..
I realise “light” is seen as a massive step forward but to me the weight lends it a more solid feeling.. When it’s too light it does *feel* cheap. I was leaning more to the S3 than the One X, but I really don’t like how it feels..

There’s things I don’t like about the 3GS I have now, but it has lasted me for 2 years with heavy usage, more than any other phone I have ever had has lasted. It’s been dropped, I’m sure it’s probably got some water damage, but the worst thing it does is slow down when it hits a certain percentage of capacity and that’s a processor issue because it’s running ios5. The phone itself only ever crashed when I tried to jailbreak it. And it’s never been off for more than an hour. My partners phone is 2 steps behind on android OS updates, and it’s newer than my 3GS which apple say will run ios6, so the fact that android is open source and theres several companies using it means that the phones seem to become obsolete quicker..

Still completely undecided though.. I don’t like that the 4s is the same size, I don’t like that most decent apps on iPhone are pricey. I don’t like the reliance on iTunes and the free one on 3 is 16GB just like the one I have now – if I go for that while it’s easy to transfer all my stuff basically all I’ll get is a different handset with a better processor and camera. I could wait on the iPhone 5, but if I do I’ll be waiting til the new year – no sense buying a new piece of tech til it’s been out and all the flaws have been identified and resolved first! (remember the antenna debacle with the iPhone 4?)..

They’re just phones – each one has a plus and a minus. People do tend to stick with what they know and I guess that predisposes them to having different expectations. Like my partner (who will be getting my 3GS when I upgrade) hates the way you can’t customise more with the iPhone homescreen – that really doesn’t bother me.

All this fanboyism.. It’s so pointless, the people who buy them because of the name on the handset are being quite silly. You should be choosing a handset based upon what you want to get from the phone, not who made it..

First off, I’d say 99% of people buy their phones because of the capabilities, not the brand. In any case, about the phones – be under no illusions, the iPhone 4 cannot compete with the HTC ONE X or Galaxy S3, it’s old; if you plan on sticking with the iPhone you’d be mad not to wait for the iPhone 5 to come out.
Where you’re reading articles with some saying duel core and others saying quad core processors that’s because most of these phones have an international version and an American version, the American versions are dual core and the international versions are quad core. As far as I’m aware this is to do with a particular compatibility issue on certain American networks.
I spent months analysing the HTC ONE X and the Galaxy S3 on the run up to the S3 release. Once it came out and I played with it a bit I settled on the Galaxy S3 because I prefer the technology. I prefer the look and feel of the ONE X and I love HTC Sense but decided to give the S3 a go (a change is as good as a rest and all that).
It took me about a week or two to get used to the weight of the S3, and the slippery feeling, but once I got used to it it was fine.
interestingly enough, the ONE X and S3 are made from the same material, just with a different finish ( god only knows why Samsung went with the glossy finish, perhaps it was a cost thing. ).
The reason I settled on the S3 was the removable battery and the SD slot, the lack of these on the ONE X was a deal breaker. Also, the battery is bigger on the S3.
I have to say Touchwiz is an UGLY launcher, it’s like nobody at Samsung spoke to each other when developing widgets, they’re awful, no consistency, no effort put into the look or feel. Samsung could learn a lot from HTC in this regard. But I downloaded a couple of 3rd party launchers and eventually settled on Nova launcher, between that and replacing the standard Touchwiz apps I now have a very, very nice looking launcher and set of widgets.

Very happy with it now. I highly recommend the S3.

Thanks for your reply Paul.. I knew the American one was different because it mentioned it in the CNet article – what I meant was that meteor said its quad and 3 said it was dual (or perhaps the other way around) – that was where the confusion came from!! Certainly the 4s by comparison is old, but I got the 3GS when it was old too and like I said it served me well..
Decisions decisions lol!

You wouldn’t be able to make that comment because it wouldn’t be true ;-)

lol, Adrian!
I believe the reason people jump down Apples throat on this stuff is because the claim to be the most innovative company going, people enjoy putting them in their place.

Yet your promoting the hell out of it in earlier comments. Cop on as you say.

No Paul, just giving my opinion. Tool

Now now, none of that language. No need to get angry because someone caught you out.

Caught me out having an opinion. Cop on.

Far too clever or me Paul.

*for*

Caught you out on trying to make the Android fans feel bad about commenting. Now go back to your Starbucks coffee and finish the lastest application your dev’ving instead of throwing bad and insulting language around a website designed to be viewed by all ages, or is it that you are looking for some attention?

Wow Paul. Having a bad day? You really are a tool. Next you’ll be calling me a nazi. See ya.

Lol most apple haters use a much better higher quality phone and can’t stand to see that there are still victims like yourself out there who believe they own the best product and are being ripped off for it.

Victims? Just like I’m a victim of Lidl and Tesco? Madness I tell you

Congratulations moneybags on your idiotic comment. Most mobile phone operators will give you an iphone or android phone for free once you sign into a contract. Try buying a galaxy s3 or iphone 4s on prepay, find out which one is more expensive. Anyway price is irrelevant, just because something and it’s accessories cost a lot of money does not make it better.

You’re definitely not in the 90% anyway, seeing as the apple v android battle is apparently the height of your concerns

Believe or not, apple make products other than phones.

http://www.apple.com

Check it out for yourself

I have most of these “fireworks” in my one year old sgs2… so its other way around.