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Ulster Bank IT failure cost bank over €100 million

The company said that the operational costs reached €103m, including redress for 750,000 customers which cost €52m.

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ULSTER BANK HAS said that the costs of an IT failure at the bank have reached over €100 million in total, a figure which could increase in the future.

The costs have been calculated at an RBS Group level and subsequently broken down by division and a provision of  €103m has been made at Group level for Ulster Bank costs associated with the incident.

The bank said this provision covers all operational costs associated with the incident, as well as redress of €52m to 750,000 customers across the island of Ireland.

Chief Executive Jim Brown said of the figures:

As we continue to deal with customer claims and costs associated with the incident, we expect that there will be some additional costs to the Bank over the coming months.

Financial performance

The company has seen a slightly improved financial performance in Q3 of this year.The Ulster Bank figures are included in the RBS Interim Management statement, and show that total income increased by €9m to €269m.

Brown said that the market remains difficult and “we continue to see an elevated level of mortgage arrears”, adding they are working with their customers who are in financial difficulty to offer them support.

Expenses fell by €3m over the period, which the bank said is due cost management initiatives continuing to progress.Impairment losses remained high at €415m, which resulted in an operating loss of €306m, which decreased by €4m.

Brown commented:

In a continuing challenging environment, in which recovery from the group technology incident was a primary focus, Ulster Bank delivered a slightly improved financial performance. Operating profit before impairment increased by 12%, to £87m [€110m], as a result of a solid income performance in the quarter and lower expenses.

Customer deposits remained flat on a constant currency basis, and there were no significant outflows following the group technology incident, reported the bank. Retail and SME balances increased marginally in the quarter while the loan to deposit ratio improved by 3 per cent to 141 per cent.

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Comments (25 Comments)

  • Got a cheque for 41c from Ulster Bank last week to compensate for the inconvenience! Just don’t know what to do with it. A holiday? A deposit on a car? Have left Ulster Bank.

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    • Savaged 02/11/12 #

      I made a number of official complaints at the time and got ?206 compo.

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    • maybe you didn’t complain enough. Between the credit card and the bank, I got about 150. And I wouldn’t have considered my self to be inconvenienced really. I didn’t even visit the bank. Although I did put in a complaint about having to use my phone credit to raise the initial complaint and got compensated for that too.

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    • Barry 02/11/12 #

      Simon Barnes, good old compo culture,

      So even though you yourself admit it wasn’t a big deal for you you still moaned knowing you’d likely get some money

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  • And next weeks news will be. Rise in bank charges from Ulster Bank

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  • They can’t put a price on all the customers they lost.

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  • You’d hope someone would look at the savings they had from replacing (with less experienced Indian workers) half the staff in the department in scotland who’d looked after the system for 30 years; and then look at the cost of the inevitable snafu, figure out that the former is far outweighted by the latter, and maybe learn the lesson that kicking experienced staff to the kerb in the name of this quarter’s bottom line is an incredibly stupid way to do business….

    …but odds are that nothing will change and we’ll start seeing things like this happen again in the future.

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  • upside to this technical glitch is that a lot of banks and larger corporations were in the process of outsourcing more of their IT services to Asia to cut costs. These plans have been shelved which means more UK and Irish workers keep their jobs.

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  • The bank is owned by RBS which is owned by the UK Government. Customers might be hit by extra charges in the end

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  • No sympathy on them. Surely if they had backed up the system before they applied their update/patch they wouldn’t be in this mess.

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    • Surely, I’m just wondering why someone hasn’t snapped you up for a 150,000 euro a year job to act as a security and banking specialist with ideas like these.

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    • I think the ‘backup guy’ was out sick that day.

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    • @Nedstack. Everyone should know the basic rule of computers is you back up all your vital information. If I know it surely a big corporation should. And from my experience of IT professionals they seem to be bluffers.

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    • NedStark 02/11/12 #

      @ family guy, did they try and get you to use a server/database when you know better that pen and paper is better. Out of curiosity, how many transactions do you think collectively RBS and Ulsterbank make per second. To bluff a bit here if their database was down for a second to a minute and they restored a backup of 1 minute ago. How many transactions do you think they would have to catch up on?

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    • @nedstark. I couldn’t care less how many transactions they do in second. This is totally unacceptable by a bank. You need to stop making excuses for them.

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    • tom 03/11/12 #

      on complex systems with high volume of live data a back up restore is a very complex task.
      if a error is introduced into the DB and goes undetected even for a couple of days it can throw a curve ball that’s null and voids a live restore.

      while I agree it’s not acceptable and risk can be greatly reduced with technology refresh. it comes at a high price.
      someone obviously made the call not to invest in upgrading and it didn’t pay off.

      but trying to oversimply this as being a tape backup is ridiculous.
      it is more common to have a daster recovery DB database that is backed up in realtime as the information is live and changing. while archive backups are made to disk these are moments in time and while useful aren’t cabable of restoring a live system without large manual input.
      if the DB tables are corrupted due to changes with an interface to another system or modification in the past by the time it is identified the older archive backup is so far out of date with the live system it’s usefulness is questionable.

      now when you do manage to restore the data base with valid information and manually input all the transaction you may need to rewrite software to calculate interest rates charges and applied these changes including testing all while the bank continues to trade.

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  • To be fair, I put a claim in for out of pocket expenses and they had the money credited to my account within 2 days. They also had given me more money than I actually claimed for!

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  • It cost Ulster Bank my custom also – and no price can be put on that !!

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  • OU812 02/11/12 #

    They still haven’t sorted me out yet

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  • Barry 02/11/12 #

    Catherine lonergan, I am very curious….just how much has the Irish Tax payer paid Ulster Bank because from what I’m aware we haven’t paid anything towards them as they are supported by the UK Government.

    Any chance you’d stop spamming your petition on thejournal.ie now, its really rather sad and it would be nice if it was even on topic for the story you were spamming it in.

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  • Red Ed 02/11/12 #

    I wonder how much of a bonus they will get for Xmas

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  • Feel sorry for the ordinary UK taxpayer who will foot the bill for this

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  • I wrote to them 3 times during the debacle and I still haven’t received a word from them let alone a cent!!

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  • padraig 03/11/12 #

    They made a lot of older IT workers who understood the slum of an IT system. The curries didn’t. I wonder if anyone moved their money to an RBS group bank, because Irish banks were unsafe. There is more than bungling IT Indians. I really think that.

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  • Una Dev 03/11/12 #

    I pulled my deposits from this bank in protest at the bondholder payments.

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