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Mixed reaction from customers to Ulster Bank deal

Did the technical glitch affect you? Are you happy with the compensation package?

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ULSTER BANK HAS announced its compensation package for the hundreds of thousands of customers who were negatively impacted by its prolonged ‘technical glitch’ this summer – and it was met with a greatly mixed reaction.

The bank said it would make a one-off payment of €25 to each account holder who had to visit a branch more often than usual between 19 June and 18 July. Reimbursements for any “reasonable out-of-pocket expenses”, such as bus trips and phone calls, will also be paid along with a 20 per cent goodwill top-up.

Savings account holders will see an automatic credit in their account, while the bank has also promised to refund any charges made in error. Certain other fees and surcharge interest will be waived for a three-month period and a commitment has been made to not introduce account maintenance fees until at least July 2013.

Were you affected by the Ulster Bank technical glitch? Are you happy with the compensation package? Let us know in the comments section.

Fianna Fáil’s finance spokesperson Michael McGrath welcomed the announcement, stating the deal seemed fair and reasonable. However, he called on Ulster Bank to continue to be fair when deciding on claims.

I expect the bank to be fair in its assessment of expense claims by customers and not to be petty and challenge the validity of every item being claimed.

ISME, the small and medium enterprise representative body, disagreed. It called the offer a “penny-pinching insult” to business and described the group as “miserly”. CEO Mark Fielding said:

The redress proposed by the Ulster Bank will be seen by all SME owners as a miserly sop, and a measure of the esteem that SMEs are held in Ulster Bank, adding insult to the damage already caused to business by their own inept handling of the IT system fiasco and their ‘Paddy Last’ solution.

Sinn Féin was also not happy with the package, deeming it “too little, too late”. MLA Phil Flanagan said that senior management at Ulster Bank still have questions to answer and encouraged people who were dissatisfied to contact the Financial Ombudsman. He added:

This is not a compensation scheme by any stretch of the imagination, but simply a reimbursement scheme for people that have been charged as a result of the bank’s failure to carry out its primary function.

Senator Lorraine Higgins, who had initiated an Oireachtas petition calling on Ulster Bank to waive all customer charges until the end of January next year, called the scheme “insulting and derisory”. She said a one-off payment of €25 did not adequately address the stress, inconvenience and hardship endured over the summer months.

It’s also quite significant that Ulster Bank is not disclosing a detailed costing of the restitution as they are clearly hoping to get out of this fiasco on the cheap.

The Consumers Association of Ireland, which had launched a ‘group action’ initiative against Ulster Bank to help consumers recoup money, said it wants to hear from customers before giving a recommendation on what to do next.

Meanwhile, customers have been having their say in the comments section TheJournal.ie:

Chris Gardiner questioned how the figure of €25 was arrived at: I wonder how they come up with a figure of 25 euro. The massive disruption,being left without any money for food. Late direct debit payment and interest charges imposed. Ok you can question these and probably get them refunded but does anyone else think that 25 euro compo for all this hassle inadequate.

Neil McAuley was considering joining Ulster Bank but not anymore: I was going to switch my account to Ulster Bank the week this calamity took place. The reason being I wanted to avail of VISA debit, which AIB don’t have and look like they won’t be launching anytime soon. In any case glad I didn’t join Ulster as I heard that their customer service during the farce was laughable. €25 compensation is a despicable ‘gesture’.

Eoin O’Beara is a bit confused by it all: I’m not sure what I was expecting, but €25 is a joke and an insult.

Pierce2020 had an idea about what to do with his compensation: Got €25 as well this morning, it was a bit of a pain at the time, but they did their best in my opinion. I just donated the money to Barnardos.

Buffy had a comparison to make: When Blackberry services went down for just 3 days, users were given $100+ worth of apps as compensation. People who couldn’t use BBM and browse the internet received this compensation, while Ulster Bank customers who missed out on wage payments, missed paying bills, spent forever waiting for the helpdesk to answer the phone only to be told “we don’t know anything”, and generally had to deal with the stress of their financial lives being turned upside down are offered €25 (but only if they queued in the bank more times that month than the last month).

It’s a disgracefully poor offer which doesn’t begin to account for the stress and unhappiness caused by having no access to any money, having to borrow money from my mother just to put petrol in the car, missing university fees payments, and being delayed in other banking that I was engaged in because I needed 6 months of statements, and couldn’t get them online or in any branch.

Dave Moran also questions the logic: If I miss a direct debet by a couple of days,Ulster Bank charge me a 10e late fee,they miss several payments and it’s 25e.Something doesnt add up?

Chris Lynch and Irish Red were much happier with it all: 25 euro because I had to visit a branch once to take out money, considering I walk pass it everyday anyway. Easiest €25 I’ve ever earn I think.

Agreed Chris. I think this is pretty fair, if a customer was not *seriously* inconvenienced.

David Kelly was thinking along a whole different line though: I was holding out for a free Henri the Hippo Pen!

Twitter was also full of talk about the compensation package yesterday, with some enterprising companies making the most of it:

Grafton Lounge

The Central Bank, which was shown the remediation plan before it was announced yesterday, said it wants to see Ulster Bank providing clear and timely information to all of its customers about the restitution deal. The regulator said it will be monitoring the implementation of the scheme.

Director of Consumer Protection Bernard Sheridan encouraged all account holders to be proactive and contact the bank to ensure their issues are properly addressed. He added that customers of other banks should get in touch with their own bank to seek redress for loss and inconvenience.

If customers are not satisfied with the outcome, they can make a formal complaint.

Ulster Bank are not bound by Central Bank’s regulatory standards when it comes to goodwill gestures – those are a business decision – said Sheridan. However, where customers are not happy, a complaint can be made to the Financial Services Ombudsman,

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Comments (25 Comments)

  • it’s a joke…what about people, like me, who were out of the country and couldn’t go to your local branch??? Lack of communication and information is ridiculous…

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  • They gave UK customers £20 for a week’s inconvenience, slightly more than Irish customers got.

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  • i don’t think that e25 is fair compensation esp since it usually e10 charge when you miss a direct debit in most banks and as a result of this “glitch” i missed quiet a few… i Will not be accepting the compensation and will be taking the matter further.
    so many were left without money and unable to meet agreements they had with other companies not to mention food etc.
    my local branch did not open late or open on Saturday despite there being over 25000 people in my town. so if you finished work after 4.30 you had to travel 20miles which of course cost money. money you couldn’t draw out from your account!
    i want a full report as to why this happened too. it was MY money they were holding and i am entitled to a full report.

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    • Get a grip. ‘I want a full report’, and what are you going to do with this report ? Fair enough you were inconvenienced, and perhaps you should be compensated more than others who weren’t as affected as much, but seriously, with all due respect, if you got the report, I doubt you could understand the finer details.

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  • 25 is not enough for failing to provide us with a banking service. My accounts were inaccessible for weeks all while I was in the middle of paying wedding deposits etc. Furthermore payments that made it were duplicated leaving us broke at a time when we needed every penny.

    Considering we trust the bank to be able to manage our banking 25 euro doesn’t go far enough easing the stress caused.

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  • I’m 20 years with Ulster Bank and 25 euros is a stinking insult for the stress and despair I endured for the length of this hitch. I never felt so trapped in a hole with no money going into my account and still needing money to feed ourselves but what did UB care? 25 euros worth! It should be 25 euros for each day of stress endured or for each year of customer loyalty. I had decided not to leave UB on the basis that if many customers left UB, this wouldnt help the bank. But my loyalty doesnt appear to mean anything to them. I’m now looking to do my banking elsewhere. If more customers do this, its bon voyage out of Ireland, UB! Then more job losses and empty buildings, etc. Great strategic planning on UB’s part.

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  • I’m not really surprised by this. Think about it, banks are not really known for giving away free money.
    I am pissed off and will if possible tell them to keep it! They ruined our holiday by taking the mortgage before giving me a months wages that was 2 weeks overdue.
    In a foreign country with a negative balance of ?400 is kinda stressful.

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  • Im not a customer but with what they went through, and the stress and pain caused for so many people, it seems like they dont really care! I would urge every single Ulster bank customer to switch ASAP when you have your money sorted. Just to show them that its unacceptable and to teach them a lesson. Lets see what happens if all the “little people” abandon them!

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  • I was unable to get tithe bank due to work obligations, but spent long enough on the phone to them only to be told everyday it was a technical hitch which was out of their control. Once again the bank has set up its own rules to minimise the amount of compensation it has to pay out, when in reality everyone that banks with ulster bank had their lives disrupted for four weeks and in some cases a lot longer. All customers should receive compensation for the worry and stress that was caused.

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  • Sam B 01/09/12 #

    I was expecting more than 25 euro to be honest. My payments and money going in and out of my account are still not adding up over a month later. My statements fluctuated by over 600 euro for no reason and there are no evidence there are now to this happening. Late payments and stress and further borrowing as a result of having to carry on living are worth a lot more.

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  • I don’t really understand the headline on this story. Mixed reaction? One person said it was the easiest €25 he made and another said they did their best. Besides that people are furious. Who can blame them. I have a mortgage with UB. If I don’t pay it can I just decide my lats penalty fees myself? I think not. Especially when they are one of the last banks to pass on the mortgage tax relief that was meant to be given at the beginning of the year. We still have not got it Wonder if I will be getting compensation for that??

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    • 25 euro .are they having a laugh. statement For June arrived yesterday . Stuck with them as I could not get a exact amount in my account and was unable to to close it. If that is what they think of their customers. Think it is time to say goodbye ulster bank

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  • Mjhint 01/09/12 #

    Im not sure if people have short memories but this little incident is the least serious event these banks have commited against the Irish people. History will tell that all these banks destroyed the economy of this country & they should be held to account not just by government but the Irish people themselves. In my view banks & banking systems are unable to be run as proper businesses & have far too much power in credit ratings of private individuals & businesses. They & their overpaid bank officials need to be brought to task.

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  • Well I didn’t even get €25 I had to share it with my husband. Despite the fact we have a current account each that was affected my the glitch UB lodged the money to our joint account. How is that compensating every customer who has an account with €25???? It’s an insult.

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  • g i hall 01/09/12 #

    If I took an unauthorised overdraft from ulster bank which is what they effectively did to me by withholding my salary for 2 weeks, they would be charging more that 20 quid.

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  • Alien8 01/09/12 #

    There is a lot of entitlement, “I am not accepting this offer” nonsense and complaints of no food on the table. There was a stupid computer error, which took a long time to get over. Anyone who was a customer (and didn’t panic) could go into the branch and get ANY amount of money. No bills were lost, all charges were paid eventually at no cost to the customer. I had a visa bill that I had transferred cash into my UB account and was able to get the cash out and pay the bill, no problem. And virtually no questions were asked to get cash put that should have been there.

    This is not an offer of compensation, this is a calculated goodwill gesture. If you are out of pocket (interest, directly related charges) then you will be compensated for this separately. For was one trip to the bank, I got €25 which I wasn’t expecting. Not much, but better than nothing. So stop talking about losing trust – you should trust a friend, not a bank – and if you want to move, then do; but not over this. These are one of the only banks left with free-ish banking, and reduced mortgage rates so I don’t want my only choice to be one of the government banks. Everyone is paying for their errors in extra taxes, so €25 is just fine.

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    • If you were really inconvenienced you would have had to go to the bank more than one time. Someone with a mortgage and kids with no pay for weeks knows what its like to be “inconvenienced”. Yes we had food on the table but coming from minding every euro to not knowing how much you have in your account was very stressful.
      But hey don’t let me stop you from thinking it was the same for everybody.

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  • Smod 01/09/12 #

    I’ve been with UB for 26 yrs, this is the only time I’ve ever had a problem with them. Out of all the banks in this country who messed up, they are the only bank that has apologized. I didn’t expect anything from them but happy enough wit the €25. If they gave €50 ppl would still b giving out!! FISH – f**k it, sh!t happens!!

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  • €25 & a SORRY!! Who do they think they are?? No sorry when we bailed them out and then pay themselves bonuses with our children’s and our money! Bankers do you think we are idiots????????

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    • Get your facts straight before jumping on the bandwagon! Ireland did not give UB a bailout, as it is a UK bank, bailed out by it’s parent company Royal Bank of Scotland.

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    • Ulsterbank was never bailed out by Ireland! And if this was any other bank, there would be no compensation at all so €25 is ok, and it’s free money at the end of the day. Stick it on an accumulator in paddy powers and try win what you really think the compensation should be.

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    • Oh yes you are most correct. But then al these banks are own by each other. That means you Bankers did a very good job at messing it all up for everybody.

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  • Jennifer 01/09/12 #

    Are you kidding me???? I was stuck in the states getting ready to ring someone to book me flights home due to the mess. And it still isn’t over!!! There are still issues with my account!! They’d need to do a bit better!

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