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UK and Portuguese banks downgraded by Moody’s

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Updated at 1.00pm

MOODY’S INVESTORS Services has downgraded 12 UK banks after reassessing the institutions’ “support environment” in the UK.

The ratings cuts include a one-notch drop for Lloyds TSB Bank, Santander UK and Co-Operative Bank and a two-notch downgrade for RBS and Nationwide Building Society.

Moody’s confirmed the rating of a 13th financial institution, Clydesdale Bank, as A2 with a negative outlook.

The ratings agency says the downgrades are based on the assumption that the UK government is less likely to provide future support to the banks and building societies:

This follows ongoing guidance from the UK Tripartite authorities (the Bank of England, the Financial Services Authority and the Treasury) that the government is more likely in the future to make greater use of its resolution tools to allow burden sharing with senior bondholders.

Moody’s said that the “downgrades have been caused by Moody’s reassessment of the support environment in the UK which has resulted in the removal of systemic support for seven smaller institutions and the reduction of systemic support by one to three notches for five larger, more systemically important financial institutions”.

The agency said that the downgrades “do not reflect a deterioration in the financial strength of the banking system of that of the government.

British Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne responded to the downgrade by saying that British banks are sound and that the downgrades reflect the government’s drive to move away from guaranteeing the big banks.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4, Osborne said: “People ask me, how are you going to avoid Britain and the British taxpayer bailing out banks in the future? This government is taking steps to do that. Therefore credit rating agencies and others will say, well actually these banks have got to show they can pay their way in the world.”

Portugal

Meanwhile, Moody’s today downgraded nine Portuguese banks by one or two notches and said that all of the bank’s ratings carry a negative outlook, except for Banko Portugues de Negocios (BPN) which has a developing outlook.

The main factor behind the Portuguese downgrades is Moody’s “assessment of the deterioration of their unsupported financial strength”, including the level of national debt being held by the banks.

The bank’s domestic asset quality is expected to deteriorate further due to “a weak outlook for economic growth in the context of the government’s austerity measures”, according to Moody’s, and the banks’ liquidity is under pressure.

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Comments (14 Comments)

  • Joseph O Reilly 07/10/11 #
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    Moody cnts !

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  • Saffron Marriott 07/10/11 #
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    A downgrade based on the ‘assumption’ that the uk government is going to do the right thing and not pour more money into these banks and encourage burden sharing – damned if you do, damned if you dont.

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  • Mary Cleary 07/10/11 #
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    The world is at the mercy of faceless idiots who spend their days in nervous worry about things that are unlikely to happen while at the same time wrecking the lives of ordinary hardworking people.

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  • Orion 07/10/11 #
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    Marriott*

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  • Alan McBride 07/10/11 #
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    This is the same crowd that gave AAA ratings to bonds based on worthless subprime mortgages in 2007.They have no official status and should be ignored.Fuckers…

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  • Brian Daly 07/10/11 #
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    A lot of people give out the picture selections in the Journal but I like this one! I hope it’s intentional! :)

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  • Conor Kirwan 07/10/11 #
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    I seriously don’t understand why such weight is ascribed to these ratings agencies. They are basically financial soothsayers who believe that they can accurately predict what’s going to happen in the future. In all honesty, it’s a form of elaborate guess work.

    I leave you with this anecdote. During the early 2000s downturn, a UK newspaper conducted an experiment where they asked a 5 year old girl to pick a number of shares and compared the performance of her ‘portfolio’ to that of a group of investment bankers. The 5 year old girl’s performance equalled or bettered those of the investment bankers in nearly every case!

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      The problem is Conor that these pr*#ks have so much power that their prophecies are self fulfilling. Amazing when even they themselves admit it’s basically educated guesswork!

    • Conor Kirwan 08/10/11 #
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      I’m right with you there Mark! That’s one of the major problems with the position that we’re in. We have entrusted the running of the financial word to a bunch of poorly educated, testosterone-fuelled morons. It’s a sad reflection of the society that we live in that villains like George Soros are deified because of their “ability” to bet well and not because of any fundamental basis of macroeconomics.

      It’s a basic principle of all bubbles that the success story forgets to produce. The Spanish in the Sixteenth Century stopped making things because they believed gold alone was a basis to an economy. The Dutch in the Seventeenth Century ruled out all but tulips as a solid economic foundation. The eminently sensible Brits felt in the 1980s that loose credit was the way forward. And what did we learn? Nothing!

      In spite of the lessons of the past, we concentrated too much on one product, in our case property and neglected the rest of the economy. We’re at a cross-roads at the present time where we have to remember economic fundamentals. Man shall not live by credit alone! Man must produce goods and services which are saleable! Man must not get caught up in an assett boom.

      There is a proverb about the poor man who got rich quickly. He squandered his new-found money on the goods and trappings of wealth, but never sought to consolidate it. He was led by reckless moneylenders and financial charlatans who believed only in the promise of tomorrow, and never the possible reality of it. He set aside no cushion or security believing only that there would be sunshine in the endless future of free money! He never invested, or set anything aside, believing that all would be okay because tomorrow always brings new promise!

      BOLLOCKS!!!

  • Morgan McCabe 08/10/11 #
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    It’s time Moody’s were downgraded!

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  • James Carroll 08/10/11 #
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    ok, you bail/guarantee whatever the banks, credit rating gets cut and price of borrowing goes up Vs don’t bail out/guarantee whatever the banks and credit rating gets cut and price of borrowing goes up, that’s like playing Russian roulette with a fully loaded gun, you goin to lose anyway.

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