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A ‘brutal, brutal, brutal’ year but TV3 remains positive about the future

As it launched its autumn schedule, TV3′s programming director Ben Frow and commercial director Pat Kiely talked recession, financial pressures, RTÉ, David Norris and Tallafornia with TheJournal.ie this week.

Cast and crew at TV3's autumn launch this week in Dublin.
Cast and crew at TV3's autumn launch this week in Dublin.
Image: Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland

WHEN TELEVISION EXECUTIVES complain about a “broken market” and emphasise how much of a bad year its been by saying ‘brutal’ not once, not twice but thrice you’d think they’d be pretty miserable but that isn’t necessarily the case at TV3

While much airtime and many paragraphs have been devoted to the troubles at RTÉ this year, TV3 has not been without its problems particularly with the sharp decline in advertising revenue.

The man responsible for the content we see on Ireland’s leading independent channel, Director of Programming Ben Frow, outlines the problems he has faced in 2012: “This has been a brutal, brutal, brutal year for me personally, much harder than 2008 and 2009.

“Financially it’s just been a lot tougher, we don’t seem to be coming out of any kind of recession. Our ambition is limitless but we can only do so much unless some people step up to plate and help us out a bit. The team are good but we’re not miracle workers.”

TV3 has debts of around €81 million and has seen ad revenue fall sharply since the economic collapse and recession.

“The market’s broken it’s as simple as that,” says the station’s commercial director Pat Kiely, adding: “You’ve three state channels which are being propped up through interventions from government and then you have UK broadcasters who overspill into the market.”

“It’s been an extraordinary situation for Ben to have grown the amount of Irish conent, for us to have grown our share, to have bucked the international trend of terrestrial channels, [who are] losing viewership. We’ve actually grown our viewership.”

Snobbery

TV3′s gripes are well established at this stage. That RTÉ can operate with both the licence fee and commercial advertising gives then an unfair advantage in the market place, in the independent broadcaster’s view. Things need to change.

Kiely indicates that a model where RTÉ took all of the licence fee – which would include scrapping the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland Sound and Vision fund from which TV3′s new drama series Deception has benefitted from – but had their dominance in the ad market reduced would change the way the market, the “broken market” operates.

“We’re one of the only markets where television advertising is cheaper than press advertising and TV advertising in Ireland is about 35 per cent cheaper than the European average where everything else in the [Irish] market is about five per cent more expensive than the European average. So we’re completely in the wrong territory there,” he claims.

Kiely also claims that millions more euro in revenue could be generated for his station if the market had a different structure but in the nearly 14 years that TV3 has been existence there has been little appetite at government level to drastically change the television market in Ireland.

Aside from all that Frow believes that the criticism levelled at TV3 programming, most recently from the likes of David Norris who took aim at Tallafornia is part of a “snobbery about TV3″.

“Tallafornia is half an hour a week,” Frow says. “He’s [Norris] entitled to have his opinion about Tallafornia but at the same time I’d like him to say that Vincent Browne was good.

He continues: “I just feel that there is an inherent snobbery towards TV3. But I suppose there is an inherent snobbery towards ITV. Maybe commerciality and snobs don’t go hand-in-hand, I don’t know.”

RTÉ

Frow says there are few things that he wouldn’t want to do if he were given the money but the restrictions limit the scope.

Speaking of money, TV3 has spent a reported €1.2 million on Deception including a grant from the BAI’s Sound and Vision fund but Kiely still feels as if it will be operating within the constraints placed on it by the dominance of RTÉ in the market for sometime to come.

“It’s incredibly furstrating, incredibly frustrating,” Kiely says on government inaction in the TV market. “I just think it’s unpopular, it seems to be unpopular politically to take on RTÉ.”

Frow adds: “I find it utterly depressing that no one will step up to the plate and it’s like nobody cares, you know. I think TV3 has such an important role to play in this country.

“It’s an independent voice, you can’t just have RTÉ dominating everything. Everyone seems to be utterly terrified of rattling RTÉ’s cage.”

And yet this has been a rotten time for RTÉ with the ‘tweetgate’ controversy and the Fr Kevin Reynolds libel, a debacle which Frow described as “major f*** up” which would have closed down TV3.

He stands by that but is less robust in talking about the State broadcaster’s troubles now: “It’s too easy for me to slag off RTÉ or slag off their current affairs. I’m just not going to do it. I’m not going to slag off anybody.

“This is a time when this country needs to pull together and there won’t be a TV3 if things don’t change. It can’t keep doing what it’s doing. RTÉ’s had a big old rap over the knuckles, it’s made some changes.

“Has it made big enough changes? I don’t know. But let’s move on from that now. I think we’ve got to start looking to the future.”

HD studio

The future involves a new multi-million euro HD studio currently being fitted out right beside its Ballymount base in Dublin.

Described as the biggest studio in the country, TV3 hopes that not only does it allow it to move to High Definition programming but that it could generate much needed revenue.

“It’ll serve us a purpose in terms of making more programmes but it will only be one part of the strategy there. The broader commercial strategy is to bring in other commercial broadcasters,” Kiely says.

The plan is that not only could Vincent Browne be filmed in front of a live studio audience but that other broadcasters, even RTÉ, could rent the space to do their own filming.

“It’s a big cost, it needs to start paying for itself but it’s part of this overall position of us getting bigger and RTÉ getting smaller,” Kiely adds.

TV3 On…

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… sports coverage:

Pat Kiely: “We broke what was an in effect an 80-year RTÉ monopoly on the GAA Championship if you include radio three years ago, right in the middle of a recession.”

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… recruiting Adele King and programme ambitions:

Ben Frow: “I’d like to do more comedy. I’d love to get Adele King on board and do a comedy series with her.

“I‘d like Deception to turn into an ongoing drama series for us, I’d like to do more reality shows, I’d like to have a bigger documentary department where we can do some more authorative documentaries and I’d like to do some format shows.

“I really want to have more shows that are returnable, where we can sell formats abroad, where we can have international presence with our content and our ideas.”

26/1/2012 TV3 Spring Schedules launched

… on David Norris and Tallafornia:

Ben Frow: “I loved David Norris’ quote on Tallafornia but it’s (the programme) not aimed at David Norris. Tallafornia is actually a really tame programme, an incredibly tame programme when you actually watch it. I’d have liked it to be a lot raunchier. It’s saucy in the second series but it’s fun.

“It’s not trying to break taboo or anything like that. It’s a slice of life in a way and it’s not aimed at David Norris or anyone of that age. It’s aimed at young people on a Friday night when it’s way past the watershed and I have done programmes in my time that are a lot more risky or offensive or controversial than Tallafornia.”

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… on the RTÉ ‘share deal’ dispute which was resolved this year:

Pat Kiely: “It cost us millions, cost us millions. I spoke to someone recently in the advertising industry who said to me: ‘In my time in this particular agency I think this deal cost you millions’. It did cost us millions.”

Read: TV3′s autumn line-up: Deception, X Factor… and the return of Tallafornia

Read: TV3 distances itself from Psychic Wayne TV broadcast

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Comments (25 Comments)

  • The final nail in your coffin mate will be introducing Edel King into the fray, even as the ablutions engineer, she is chronically bad and embarrassing. Just don’t do it, as for Tallafornia, well it’s shite but if it brings in revenue!!!

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  • Brian 25/08/12 #

    Ah here, the country is in a bad enough state as it is without having Twink back on the telly.

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  • Hate mind numbing rubbish like tallafornia etc but at least they are dipping their toes into reality tv ….however if tv3 employ adele king, when there are so many talented people in the country I will personally never watch this station again. Sounds extreme but adele isn’t loved anymore… Her sharp tongue and waspish comments are only half of it and following her antics on the late late party thingy the whole country either cringed or turned off.

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  • I’d have alot more respect for tv3 if that got rid of that super annoying NoNo ad. I hope kassie depaiva goes bald!

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  • Brian 25/08/12 #

    TV3′s credibility would go up a lot in my mind if they got rid of the D4/ Dort accent crowd. And yes, Sinead Desmond from Murning Orrland I’m looking straight at you.

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  • If they scrapped the Jeremy’I am God’ Kyle Show there ratings would probably soar….they’re showing it three times a day….

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  • Cost plus sofas are keeping TV3 going at the moment.

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  • Why is there this obsession among execs/bosses at TV stations to bring dinosaurs back into the fray. RTE did it with Gaybo and Mike Murphy and now TV3 seem to be courting Twink. It’s a sad reflection of the talent pool in Ireland that this is happening. Both Gay and Mike’s best days were decades ago, while Twink …. Umm I’ll say no more.

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  • TV3, employing the unemployable.

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  • Can u spot Vincent Browne, like a good wheres Wally!!

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  • I think they need to stop blaming RTE for all of their problems. Maybe if they showed something other than JeremyKyle/Supernanny/WhatNotToWearUKUSOz/BangedUpBoozedUpAbroad incessantly then perhaps people might watch. I don’t think RTE is their competition, it’s the UK channels, I know that if I had more than the 4 Irish channels, I’d rather watch the programmes on ITV rather than TV3. I thought Mark Cagney was bad on Ireland AM but Alan Cantwell was sitting in for him this week and good God but the man CONSTANTLY has a smug grin, even in the midst of a discussion on suicide he looked like he was on the verge of rubbing his hands together if he got the interviewee to get upset on screen.

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  • Mr Kiely is critical of the amount of overspill from UK broadcasters into Ireland yet TV3 obtains most of their peak programming such as X Factor, Coronation Street, Emmerdale, Family Fortunes from ITV and is in essence a faux UK broadcaster with an Irish accent.

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  • twink….jaysus!!
    once they keep caroline twohig on fyi on 3e i’m happy as she is gorgeous

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  • Brutal is a word I associate with TV3

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    • Exactly Dave hate the channel and avoid it at all costs like all my mates.. Reason being a friends funeral few years back that they knocked on their mothers door and stuck a camera in her face the day after he died, such inconsiderate c**** and also were present at the graveyard after being asked several times to not be present, ruthless coverage on the most painful day most of us will ever know makes me hate every presenter, every show and every attempt these guys make to become a respected name in this country..

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  • It is important that TV3 is present and works,however they entered a market that they always knew the state broadcaster is supported by mixed funding. They now make it sound as if some goalposts were shifted on them with their complaints. I find that approach to be very cynical, in always it takes away from what they are achieving. Less complaining would go along way to remove the ‘yellow pack’ vibe that some people attach to the station. They’re making great strides and I wish them well.

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    • TV3 in fairness isn’t really my cup of tea, but at least it’s free! Where as I’m forced to pay €160 per year to keep RTE afloat! Why should I have to subsidise something I can honestly say I never watch? It’s no more than a mafia, run by a gang of crooks! How in hell the chairman and chief executive held on to their jobs ,after that debacle with the priest defies all logic!

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  • damian 25/08/12 #

    Brutal, brutal station. Gutter programming with dodgy green screen sets that look like it was filmed in 1960 behind the iron curtain!

    The sooner this excuse for a station goes to the wall the better!

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    • So we can just have RTÉ and it’s wonderful programming with it’s management team effectively deciding what and who should have access to appear on television? TV3 gave Vincent Browne a job after he was sacked from RTÉ after attacking Bertie at the FF press conference in 2007. That at least earns it brownie points in my book.

      And if you read the article, you’d see that TV3 runs off a very tight budget compared to most private broadcasters across Europe due to RTÉ’s dominant share.

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    • damian 27/08/12 #

      Yeah, I read the article and I’m aware of their budget. As I said. Cheap, bottom of the barrell stuff. Blaming RT? for their problems is a defeatist attitude and stinks of small-time attitude. I can honestly say that they have brought nothing of interest to the entertainment of this country….

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  • Maybe they could save a few bob by cutting back on canteen expenses. Has he seen the size of his presenters?

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  • It’s no wonder with all those shite reality programmes ye show. Whats the story with them, you would want to have a brain the size of a pea to enjoy them, and now you want to get Twink on board, that,s just so sad!

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