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Enda Kenny in Paris to discuss youth unemployment

He is joined by Social Protection Minister Joan Burton.

ENDA KENNY WILL be in Paris later today to attend a conference on youth unemployment in Europe.

On the invitation of French President Francois Hollande, the Taoiseach will be joined by Social Protection Minister Joan Burton as politicians discuss the current youth employment crisis.

The second Conference on Youth Employment in Europe was organised by Hollande’s administration to “maintain political momentum behind addressing the youth employment challenge”.

Those attending hope to firm up actions to implement the Youth Guarantee agreed by the Irish Presidency earlier this year.

Kenny’s contribution will focus on digital skills and the potential of the digital economy.

In September, 5.584 million people under the age of 25 were unemployed across the European Union, a rate of 23.5 per cent.

At 28 per cent, Ireland’s rate is above average but not as devastatingly high as in Greece (57.3 per cent) or Spain (56.5 per cent).

The lowest rates were seen in Germany (7.7 per cent) and Austria (8.7 per cent).

Meanwhile, the Irish Times reports this morning that there is growing doubt that the government can fulfill the promise made through the ‘youth guarantee’ that there will be a job or training scheme for unemployed under 25 within four months.

Citing a Social Protection document, Carl O’Brien says there are growing concerns about resources.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 6:57 AM

    To discuss how he rids Ireland of it by making emigration the only choice?

    Oh right.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:20 AM

    Well no, you can go study as well to make yourself applicable to today’s job market instead of thinking that it’s your god given right to be a plasterer on 60000 in Kenmare.

    Would you rather the government open collective farms?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:34 AM

    @Connor
    Well yes you can study all you want But Kenny and his government cannot supply jobs for the people They have failed us and all the people they have driven away.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:53 AM

    connor you is an ass the same as kenny he sits on top of corrupt state institutions that have covered up the real story of why this country has sank to its knees ,ireland must be the only country in europe that can appoint one toxic government after the next.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:08 AM

    It’s not the governments job to supply jobs for the people. (We don’t live in a communist society).

    The governments job is to provide the right conditions for jobs to be created organically. We have low corporation tax, subsidies to take on the unemployed, completely free third level education for the unemployed etc.

    What else exactly can the government do? They don’t control global economic demand.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:20 AM

    Conor reduced spending does not create jobs. They have not created in any way the right conditions. Just because of we have low corporation tax doesn’t mean lots of jobs are created. In many cases companies have small operations to avoid tax with only a small no of jobs created and a very small no of job types available.

    Subsidies to take on the unemployed?? You mean JobsBridge? Because that’s the only one that’s been operating for a decent period of time. That’s not creating jobs that’s creating slaves.

    Education does not solve all the problems. All those in the construction industry cant just be educated to be IT specials or programmers which is all the governments “smart” economy seems to care about. I think we already know these jobs will be shifted to cheaper economies like Indian in the very near future.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:28 AM

    No I don’t mean jobsbridge the subsidy for taking on someone who is long term unemployed.

    Secondly the government had to reduce spending because there was no money to spend, the country was broke and still is. Prolifigate spending doesn’t always create sustainable employment in fact the seeds of the Celtic tiger were down when Haughey cut the budget in 1987 restoring outside confidence in Ireland.

    Thirdly how exactly do you know that all IT jobs are going to be outsourced to India?

    Last but not least, not all unemployed people have to study IT, but is it not better to up skill at something that gives them transferable skills to enter the workforce again?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:35 AM

    The long term unemployed subsidy that just came in? There’s no data available to prove it works.

    Austerity has been proven to be unsuccessful and this has been discussed by many reputable economists.

    IT support has already shifted there and much the rest will follow.

    Enter the workforce where? A huge swath of the unemployed are from the construction industry and may have worked there for years. They may be suitable for manufacturing or another position where their physical ability and use of their hands is their forte. Office work is not suitable, computer work is unsuitable and that is all the government seems to care about. Creating a population of unhealthy office drones.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:40 AM

    There’s also no information to prove that it won’t work.

    Manufacturing will never come back to Ireland and there is literally nothing that can be done about that. Wages are too high and we can’t compete even at minimum wage it is too high in comparison with other other countries.

    We need to upskill people for jobs that actually might exist.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:44 AM

    I wouldn’t be so bold as to assume it will. And it still costs the tax payer >1.5 weeks dole a month.

    So you have no solution. Just like the government. Flappy about pointlessly.
    Saying “upskill” repeatedly is not going to solve anything.
    When these people “upskill” as you call it they end up on Internships in a lot of cases because they have no experience in what they “upskill”ed to. So they cost the government more.

    You just quote Fine Gael tripe and have nothing to offer. Got ya.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:47 AM

    What’s wrong with people interning? I had to do it during college and most people these days do too. It’s the only way to get experience.

    You have also not given one suggestion on what should be done, you just keep disagreeing with what is being done. Go on tell me what you would suggest?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:54 AM

    HSE paid UK firm €28.8m for fostering service. So how does this help Ireland?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:56 AM

    Are you kidding me? You are comparing Interning in college to an Internship? My God!
    What a stupid comment.

    Another way of getting experience is paying someone a lower wage at the beginning and allowing them to get the experience and work their way up. You know, the way jobs usually work and have worked for generations?

    Ye, I have 1 simple solution. Stop paying Europe money we don’t owe them wrecking the country for the next 20 years and stop stinging the population with high and hidden taxes to do this.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:59 AM

    @DigitalA – just on the point of outsourcing IT to India – it’s not going to happen, for now anyway. Yes, some IT support has moved out there but it has proved difficult for the companies who did it (anyone who bought anything from Dell will know what I’m talking about).

    Also, proper IT jobs like developing and engineering are not at any risk from India right now because they simply do not have the excess talent in the country. The talent they have is either working in the domestic economy or already moved on to developed countries.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:59 AM

    Exactly what is the difference between interning in college and an internship?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:01 AM

    And also once you get a job you do start on a low wage and work your way up?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:02 AM

    Lastly, there’s no point saying “burn the bond holders” as a solution because it’s not going to happen, I know it’s not fair but it’s just the way it is.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:02 AM

    The company I am on an internship with for is moving its IT departments to India.
    Our SAP was moved abroad.
    Our websites are maintained and developed abroad.
    This is a massive company.

    But I know what you mean. Eventually it will happen though.

    I have done both Conor. I have done both.
    If you don’t know the difference our conversation is over.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:08 AM

    You haven’t said the difference?

    I can’t see the difference between working to gain experience to get a job during college and what you’re doing? You’re working to gain experience no?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:12 AM

    As I said, if you don’t have the common sense to know the difference between someone with no work experience doing an unpaid internship in college and an individual with years of work experience starting an unpaid internship then the conversation is over.

    Also, don’t assume you know my position when you have no knowledge whatsoever.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:15 AM

    But you’re interning to gain work experience to enable you to get another job?

    Exactly the same as why I interned.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:16 AM

    Ha! you’re assumptions amuse me and make you look like a fool.

    But no, that’s not the reason. Goodbye.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:18 AM

    Then what is the reason?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:20 AM

    I have more sense than to discuss my personal situation with you and also the population that views this website.

    Tearing apart your Fine Gael spin was just to pass the time.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:24 AM

    So you don’t know?

    I don’t “spin” and I also don’t support political parties like football teams. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean that you just assume that it is wrong. You should probably not take that attitude into your internship because employers don’t tend to like moaners!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:25 AM

    Yes I don’t know why I am on an internship.

    Our Conor loves his assumption.

    Bye bye petal, I’ve “experience” to gain.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:36 AM

    Looks like Connor Gale.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 5:34 PM

    “So you have no solution. Just like the government. Flappy about pointlessly.”

    I’m curious DigitalA. Everything the government does you criticise. Everything Connor suggested you criticised. What are YOUR solutions then?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 6:59 AM

    I love his expression in the pic. Looking forward into the future. So earnest, so contemplative, so full of s**t. The whole thing would be laughable if it wasn’t so profoundly serious.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:03 AM

    He calls that look “Green shteel”

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:04 AM

    @Annette. Or just wondering if he left the immersion on.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:27 AM

    The look of: “Space, the final front ear.. Where is that other ear?”

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:52 AM

    I think he just looks like a dimwit!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:08 AM

    He does not have to look like one

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:00 AM

    You have to laugh really.. a primary school teacher who only taught for 3 years and who has been in “public service” since 1975 (but was “double jobbing” for 30 years too) talking about youth unemployment and the “Digital economy”

    It’d be funny if this guy wasn’t the “leader” of the country.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:29 AM

    So who do you want as leader?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:30 AM

    There is now way in HELL Kenny taught for three years. He was 24 when his father passed and the people of Castlebar saw fit to vote him in. He was teaching for about a year or so at best. Its a joke that this pedantic ar$ehole thinks he can lecture anyone on employment. He’s nothing more than a career politician whose daddy gave him a seat and he has the audacity to claim a teachers pension as well as his politican pensions despite never really having taught. Truth be told he know sweet fcuk all about working so who’s he to talk on the subject?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:08 AM

    ENDA could give talks on youth unemployment in any country world wide .After all he is the upmost expert in this field and has the figures to back this up from Ireland….Eammon Gilmore could be his guest speaker..
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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:04 AM

    Lots of talking and fck all being done about it. Only option people have – leave the country

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:16 AM

    Why the need to travel to Paris? Do they not have the internet or phones in France, and Enda what about your carbon footprint

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:24 AM

    Whos going to listen to wheres Wally or the Minister for self protection,what sort of a world are these clowns living in .They have made Ireland the laughing stock of the world .

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:01 AM

    “They have made Ireland the laughing stock of the world.”

    I always find it funny when people use this old chestnut. Having lived abroad, I can tell you that other countries have their own troubles and concerns to worry about. They just don’t have time to focus on Ireland, whether to mock us or to congratulate us.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:46 AM

    Any Frenchmen with a crutch for hire? Anyone…

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:23 AM

    Enda you are a disgrace to Irish men and you have failed! You have ripped my generation of our future. You put the banks and your eu job above the citizens of Ireland. You have left so many young Irish isolated from their homes and families. You have forced us to a life of travelling from country to country. You have implemented the policies that will ensure youth unemployment will remain high. You have crippled the next generation with gambling debts of the wealthy bond holders.

    Now he wants to give a talk about fixing the problem he is making worse, the arrogance

    I am in Australia, have two year visa and then have to try find another country that will give me a visa, where does this stop, when will I, if ever, be able to return home.

    All bull sh*t talks about fixing youth unemployment, while at the same time inflicting severe austerity on the country which is on its knees.

    If you are so concerned about youth and unemployment start by looking after the people you have forced to stay away, GIVE US OUR VOTE!
    I am on a temporary visa of two years I am entitled to vote.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:35 AM

    What a joke of a man…

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:53 AM

    It’s insulting to men to call that creature a man…a worm would be more apt!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:35 AM

    Anyone know where in Paris.. I’d love to get him in a corner for ten minutes.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:59 AM

    Given that he is hosting, Monsieur Hollande’s Palace I’d imagine.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:14 AM

    I’d say you’d brown the togs if you met him easy to sound like a hard man on here

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    Nov 12th 2013, 12:48 PM

    joe mahon….troll and spoofer !!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:02 AM

    Ah well, at least the good people of France will see the Irish have a sense of humour by sending two of our three biggest clowns.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:15 AM

    Who is the third clown Mike, yourself?!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:42 AM

    I would have thought you were more qualified for that job mahon.
    It would be a great promotion for you toove from butt licking clown to full idiot clown.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 12:23 PM

    Spoofer!!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 12:43 PM

    Welcome back “talkingshit” and if ever there was a spoofers walking this planet it’s you shower of cancerous slugs.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 1:16 PM

    Ah Mike I think you secretly enjoy all this slagging!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 1:33 PM

    @ joe mahon. Almost as much as you like making snide comments .
    It’s not nice is it spoofer.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:45 AM

    Hey kenny .you waster how many of our children are working in Paris .cop on.people are sick of your puke

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:29 AM

    Don’t speak for me please. It’s rude and unbecoming.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:12 AM

    Is there no way to take down the government? Surely there is grounds for an election when the country is run by an imbecile?!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:30 AM

    Only an utter imbecile could pose such a question.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:36 AM

    Kennys and Govt policy: Cut benefit for all under 25′s and make sure they have a passport, problem solved.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 6:57 AM

    Hi guys! Please help fight cancer by donating to ie.movember.com
    Team Dublin bus
    Thank You!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:15 AM

    A general election would help find a cure.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:27 AM

    Clearly it wouldn’t. Spending far more than we earn.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:06 AM

    Roman, most worthwhile post on here. Good man.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:03 AM

    But do we question where it is spent? How much is wasted on bureaucracy?
    How much and how many people does it take to run the dept of social protection, etc?
    We could do like Switzerland and give everyone a living income to cover their needs and eliminate most of the dept of social protection agents.
    Clearly, the dept is not socially protecting its service users.
    We have got to flip the power pyramid and remind TD’s etc that they are OUR SERVANTS.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:26 AM

    I hope for our sake kenny and burton are not asked to explaine anything in detail because it will be like something out of spitting image.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:30 AM

    As part of their continued modernisation, France are introducing new legislation to ban employment altogether.
    Unions leaders are generally favouring the move, but there is some dissent about the practicalities of implementation.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:36 AM

    Join the fight to harvest all the negative energy in Ireland into a viable bio mass energy fuel. Together we can make ourselves billionaires.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:25 AM

    You could well be right Michelle. It’s probably as deep as his thoughts go

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:57 AM

    Regardless of people’s opinion of EK he certainly has aged dramatically …. actually looks sick !!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:04 AM

    That’s true actually. Being Taoiseach mustn’t be as much fun as the commentators on here seem to think it is. Maybe that’s why they sit behind their keyboards sniping rather than getting involved in politics.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 9:46 AM

    Joke of a leader, absolute joke. He might give a few interviews and have an aul debate or two in France, god knows however bad his French is it will b more than his own people have seen or heard from him in 3 years simce the teleprompted lies during the election of ‘burning the bondholders’ and ‘knocking cronyism out of politics’ !!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:20 AM

    “Those attending hope to firm up actions to implement the Youth Guarantee” can be translated into well we have done nothing since we agreed this we had better have a talk about it again.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:19 AM

    Enda Kenny a God amongst men…. I love that bloke & so do you

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    Nov 12th 2013, 7:54 AM

    Replace the G with an s and you’re onto something!

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:41 AM

    Enda: Do what we do lads!. Just force all on any aul training courses and internships, they still need welfare support but they’re not officially classed as unemployed, what do ye say lads!.
    Hollande: Sacre bleu! but what about when these training courses and internships finish, will zer be jobs to suit zer training
    Enda: Ah come on boy, sure just get them to do another one. We might end up with a load of unqualified “Jack of all Trades” but the important thing is the unemployment figures are down.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:31 AM

    Publicity stunt again. When will he stop? The answer will come at GE.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 8:38 AM

    Over there to get instructions from merkel

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:52 AM

    He’s not responsible for me going to France but he’s most definitely responsible for making me stay there

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    Nov 12th 2013, 12:14 PM

    Oh wise up. Boo hoo poor you

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    Nov 12th 2013, 10:45 AM

    Kenny might ‘discuss’ unemployment but he is going to do sweet f all about it.
    Hope he enjoys the trip on tax payers money.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 11:04 AM

    “Enda Kenny in Paris to discuss youth employment” or to listen and learn about youth unemployment? He is running on thin ice in relation to this topic and is about to sink if he doesnt step up and turn his words into actions.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 2:54 PM

    His passport should be cancelled while he’s over there so he can’t come back, sure don’t worry enda, it’s only a short hop to your real homeland, Germany and your fuhrer Merkel.

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    Nov 12th 2013, 12:01 PM

    Maybe the two heavyweights are discussing a job swap?

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    Nov 12th 2013, 6:12 PM

    might as well sit wearing those sunglasses from the Simpsons with the eyes drawn in, while joining these leaders as there’s no chance of him returning to make any positive change

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    Nov 12th 2013, 1:59 PM

    I strongly agree

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