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Shareholders file lawsuit over Facebook flotation

Meanwhile a US Senate committee is considering launching an inquiry into the social network’s recent flotation.

The pre-market price for Facebook shares shown in New York this morning.
The pre-market price for Facebook shares shown in New York this morning.
Image: AP Photo/Mark Lennihan

A US SENATE PANEL is preparing to launch an inquiry into the flotation of the social network Facebook last week.

The company’s shares floated at $38 on their first day of trading on Friday, but have dipped since trading opened on Monday and are currently priced at around $32 a share.

An aide to the Senate Banking Committee said today that it wants more information about the initial public offering and will seek meetings with representatives from Facebook and regulators.

Meanwhile, a group of shareholders is suing the company and Morgan Stanley, which was the lead underwriter for Facebook’s IPO. They claim that the IPO documents omitted key information about the company’s growth forecasts and contained false statements.

The AP reports that US regulators are looking into whether Morgan Stanley selectively informed clients of an analysts

Morgan Stanley has not commented on the lawsuit, but says it fully complied with rules concerning the IPO.

- Additional reporting by the AP

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  • Posted the comment before the others had loaded.. Wish eircom broadband was faster!!

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  • It’s wildly overvalued.

    Heres the math.
    The ARPU (avg revenue per user) is currently $1.21, at float it was listing at $112 ARPU.

    60% of Facebook access currently is from mobile screens providing difficulty in generating display advert revenue. This figure is growing with revenue plummeting over the last 28 months.

    They don’t currently have a workable revenue model.

    The share price will steady at $28 – $30 and once the revenue model has been shown to be nonexistent will then fall down towards $15 – $10 by sept

    D

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    • Interesting figures there alright. Facebook have built a great infrastructure (lots of users, lots of connections between those users, lots of data about those users) and it seems they are trading on the potential to monetise that in future, rather than the reality of here and now.

      They need to find a revenue model that works, and quickly. By the sounds of it the display ads aren’t really going to do it for them long term.

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    • There biz model is the sale of you’re information and habits thats why they have been changing the user terms and conditions ,same as Google .Dave’s right I modelled it to about £15 a share and they will lose to google in the long term .

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    • The value is not in their revenue stream, it’s that they have a ridiculously big database containing a huge amount of user data. For profiling and target marketing purposes this is a very valuable asset, especially since it cost them relatively little to compile it. It’s only my opinion, but I think the price will stabilise at a higher figure than you’ve estimated, and will stay stable for at least a year, because it’s a valuable asset rather than as a revenue generator.

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    • Fair play to you for putting it so succinctly. I wonder if Facebook users are so compliant with the company policy of ” in your face ” advertising? Ad fatigue sets in after a while and we don’t even notice anymore unless it’s really entertaining or shocking on TV.

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  • Reminds me of what our believe government did when they floated Eircom shares and overpriced then by miles but heck no one here to bring them to account for their claim that it was “the best investment money can buy”….

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    • That was some scam,but it made me cynical about subsequent government horseshit about tigers and boom getting boomer,so a good investment after all.

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    • David the eircom share price stayed at about 20% over its launch price for months after . greed got the better of people we need to get over blaming the government for all our woes . if The share price had increased by 100 % . the government would have been accused of giving away state assets to benifit the rich …

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    • Blaming the gov. For all our woes, Are you serious? Who else is responsible for our woes can you tell me? I mean our gov have such a squeaky clean reputation for honesty, sincerity, transparency it makes me ashamed to even utter the possibility that they tried to screw us….i mean they ran the country so well why would one even think the Eircom fiasco but but another MISTAKE…oh where did I hear that before…Wait… Sovereign debt, property tax, water tax, septic tank tax, waste water tax?? Closed hospitals, 1 ambulance for 70,000.00 population, overpaid fat cat civil servants, claiming double expenses, unvouched expenses, 200k ministerial salaries + 50K party salaries. Make no mistake about 1 thing, todays gov. are no better than the landlords who ruled this island 200 years ago, when they are in the shyt, they tax, as did the kings and landlords past until they were toppled.
      Maybe in a twisted way you are right, our woes are caused by us because we ALLOW them to carry on while sitting our our asses but this is the wrong column for this kind of discussion….

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    • a lot of facebook multi million dollar advertising clients have cut their contracts because they can avail of free like pages..they are finished in 6months shares will be half that at best

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  • Did anybody not read that gm pulled advertising of $10m the week before floatation. Did alarm bells not start to ring ? Wake up people !!

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  • Pure greed. I’d be pretty certain the price will creep back up to $38- per share over the next few months, and will probably level off. No-one’s been cheated, they just didn’t make silly money for half-an-hours trading.

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    • Seems more to this if you read the business insider article published on thejournal this morning. There are many questions there are least that need answering if true

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    • @ Paul, with respect, I’d be very sceptical about anything Business Insider reports. I’ll wait until someone more reputable covers the story. Not saying they’re wrong, but BI has a very patchy and subjective track record. And that’s about the most most polite way I can phrase it.

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  • You’d have to be blind to have bought shares in Facebook.

    In comparison one of the worlds largest mining company Woodside share price is $31. This is base on gold, oil, iron etc and resources 40+ years that they control. Facebook, is priced the same but let’s be honest in 40 years Facebook who??

    People were ripped off by the hype and Mr Zuckerberg is still laughing all the way to the bank.

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  • Oh wow…

    A senate hearing it’s not every failed ‘get rich quick scheme’ that gets the honors

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  • It was MSs job to put lipstick on the pig. It will probably settle at $25

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  • Eoin Faz 24/05/12 #

    On a secondary note:
    Your government will not fix your problems. If it does so, it is incidental!

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  • Sounds a bit like the eircom fiasco if you ask me.

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  • BUBBLE !

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  • Would love to have been able to short these :( most obviously overvalued IPO in yonks

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  • Like?

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  • I heard Mark Zuckerbergers studied the Eircom flotation before putting Nosebook up for sale. See now, we show the best of them a good scam

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  • Eoin Faz 24/05/12 #

    $38 was cheeky $32 was realistic. But hey that’s just supply and demand; no conspiracy they just put the price up to what they thought they could get!

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  • Boo hoo hoo, greedy speculators trying to make an easy few million get their fingers well and truly scalded.
    That dripping sound is my heart bleeding for the miserable bastards.

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  • I did say bofore the sale this was not going to be a good buy. I believed they were losing advertising before the sale as adverts do not fit on the mobile phone screen and most of their customers were moving ot mobile phones to use facebook. Common sense dont you think?

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  • I hope the Irish public do not have to bail out this set of losers . Pardon me gamblers.

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  • 10 billion ^^ not million

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  • i dunno. Its 4am and this stuff is beginning to bore me

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