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Ryanair looks to Russia as next destination

Reports from Moscow suggest that the Irish government has asked for permission for Ryanair to fly between the two countries.

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THE DEPARTMENT OF Foreign Affairs has told TheJournal.ie it is unable to comment on today’s reports that it has asked the Russian Transport Ministry to allow Ryanair to operate between the two countries.

A spokesperson said that discussions between the two governments would be part of usual bi-lateral relations but no further details about a commercially sensitive matter could be outlined.

The Moscow Times reports that the document from the Irish Ministry did not contain any possible routes or flight frequency. Citing a Russian government source, the newspaper indicated that further talks between the countries’ aviation authorities will be held.

Last weekend, the Sunday Independent revealed that Michael O’Leary’s Ryanair has already held talks with a number of airports in Russia.

In a statement to TheJournal.ie today, the budget airline confirmed the discussions were still at a “purely exploratory” stage.

“Ryanair will always meet with airports that are interested in bringing Ryanair’s low fares to their market. Ryanair is currently in discussion with over 50 European airports, so competition for Ryanair growth is fierce. We talk to many airports and always keep the door open to new route options; and the best way to do that is by meeting them.”

Following remarks by its head Igor Artemyev last week, Russia’s Anti-Monopoly Service seems to be interested in welcoming foreign, low-cost airline into its airports to fly domestic routes. The country’s own budget airlines ceased operations last year after failing to be successful in the market.

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Comments (71 Comments)

  • Would be great to see Moscow at an affordable price.

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  • I like travelling with Ryanair because they always land near the airports.

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  • This is great. Always wanted to visit Moscow and St Petersburg.

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  • I wonder is this a foot in the door as a way of getting at the Russian domestic market?
    Big potential there

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  • This is fantastic news! :) Quite a long flight to be on the Ryanair flight but however…what a great move by the company! :)

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  • Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit vodka.

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  • Wether or not this happens, it should be seen as a positive step and hats off to O’Leary and co, always full of surprises. I flew a lot with Ryanair over the years, and like an earlier remark, they do exactly what it says on the tin, no complaints from me as you pay for what you get, and I don’t remember any flight issues to be fair on well over a dozen flights. We all know the catering could be better, and when a member of the male cabin crew is wearing more make up then a 1970’s David Bowie, it can be a tad intimidating (This was a once off thankfully), aswell as some not so well mannered ground crew and cabin crew, but its a service, and Ryanair take you to places we somestimes cannot reach so easily or afordable. Aeroflot are not that bad also these days from what I hear, flew with them once on an MD-11 from the USA to Ireland many years ago and it was a pleasure. Best of luck to Ryanair and hope this works out.

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  • Kevin Dennis – I have read your pathetic comments before- the ones about migrants and foreign people in Ireland. You are such a pitiful person.
    Feel sorry for you.

    change

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    • Natalia , Sorry to disappoint you but there are an increasing number of people like Kevin, myself included, who are beginning to realise that Ireland needs to start questioning the logic behind uncontrolled immigration. Its nothing personal but there is an element of people here who will immediately start screaming racism etc. And I not talking EU here… for example.. the number of “asylum seekers” coming to Ireland since the recession started here has fallen 45%!! Now forgive me for thinking this but surely these poor people who are fleeing pestilence, mutilation, machete wielding neighbours etc etc would be glad to get asylum anywhere in the west??But it seems they realise we can’t afford to be as generous as we used to be ;) ONLY SAYING before the usual suspects start

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  • I fly frequently to russia for business as well as vacations…a wonderful country and a wonderful people, especially to those who can be bothered to learn a bit about the language and traditions… what all the bigots are on about about economic migrants? beats me.. last time I checked, russian nationals are still visa required, and the Irish embassy makes it VERY difficult to get that visa… I absolutely welcome this move from Ryanair (if indeed there is such a move), with some luck, there’ll be flights direct to Moscow all year round, rather than just the summer months (S7 airlines flies Dublin-Moscow non-stop -summer schedule only).

    This is going to be great for both countries, but then again, I don’t think that flights to Moscow will be going from Dublin… probably Stansted, Berlin and Paris first…

    and by the way., Aeroflot’s servise is a damn sight better than Ryanairs, and catering, crew, airplanes are of a much higher standard. The time of beat-up old Tupolevs is gone, they operate only Airbus/Boeings on international routes.

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  • No I would think there’s a lot more gangs and criminals per head of population over here!

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  • Looks forward to flying into Moscow Airport (Siberia)

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  • Ryanair to Russia via a bus from Kazakhstan to Mongolia…

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  • Ryanair is THE Irish business success story. Michael O’Leary is impressive. I’d vote him to single handedly transform the country in 5 years.

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  • Pure waffle Tara!

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  • In Soviet Russia, Ryanair flies you.

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  • Ryanair, making Aeroflot look like a 1st class service.

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    • You’ve obviously never flown Aeroflot then

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    • Four times last year, so I think I can judge.

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    • I’ve never had a bad experience with Ryanair flights per say, they do exactly what they say on the tin. Some of the ground staff in foreign airports need a lesson in human relations though.

      Aeroflot on the other hand, my experience with them on one occasion was circling Miami 8 times so they could manually get one of the landing gear down so we could land. I think you will find its the latter with over 100 major incidents and 1000’s of fatalities.

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    • Alan, I fly about 100 a year with business and honestly Aeroflot are the worst of the flag carrier airlines ( if that term is still applicable ). Ryanair are the worst of the budget airlines. These are just my opinions though so each to their own. Haven’t flown for a holiday in about 5 years so maybe Ryanair are good for that, don’t know really.

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    • I assume one will be asked if they can swim before booking their ticket!

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  • Winston very well said!!!! :-))))

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  • PS
    I would still fly Aer Lingus as a first option, as if Ryanair or Aer Lingus fly to the same destination / City, Aer Lingus offer a more comfortable and direct service. I.E Frankfurt or Dusseldorf.

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    • Vincent 23/10/12 #

      50% of the time I booked flights with aerlingus they have been canceled or delayed. There is always a Worry over any potential strike with aerlingus. I was also on an aerlingus flight in which bumpy landing resulted in all the oxygen masks being dropped . No apology given just a rough looking air hostess barking at people not to touch the masks.

      I have never had a single issue with ryanair. That Kerry to “Frankfurt” flight is great for me getting to Stuttgart.

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  • Bring it on, always wanted to see the kremlin in person. Moscow is currently difficult / pricey to get to.

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  • In soviet Russia Boarding Pass prints you!

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  • Hooray, cats for everybody!!!

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  • Bono can visit Pussy Riot in jail for a real cheap photo op now, yay!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Have always wanted to visit St. Petersburg but I’d rather chop off my arms and legs and crawl there on my tongue rather than fly Ryanair. A truly horrible experience every time. Long live Aer Lingus as an independent airline. The idea of having to fly with them every time I wanted to come home from London would give me nightmares.

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    • That’s what the free market is about, you don’t have too, I’ve had 6 flights with Ryanair (they were cheapest) and I haven’t a complaint with any of them. any of the staff I dealt with were fine, each flight was on time and cost less than the others . I can’t see why all this “id die before I’d fly with ryanair” shit comes from. I had a 6hour delay with aerlingus from Heathrow earlier this year and they lost my bag. I wasn’t happy but it certainly won’t stop me flying with them again.

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    • Well Bilbo, this “shit” comes from multiple bad experiences flying with them. Having to commute to/from little airports miles from your destination, pay for the privilege of getting to/from those airports, the increased hassle and stress they introduce with having to print boarding passes, the mad rush onto their planes to sit together, the constant intrusions as they try to sell lottery tickets, train tickets, overpriced bad food. I’ve also been delayed with Aer Lingus but I’d prefer to breeze to an airport close to the city, deal with polite, dignified staff, have a more peaceful flight and not have to deal with an organisation just dying for me to slip up in some way so they can then extract fines from me. You’re happy with Ryanair, that’s great. I on the other hand like full service airlines and especially Aer Lingus to get home to Ireland. Often I find the difference in price is very minimal when you remove the added costs of travel to far flung airports etc.

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    • Gerard your complaining about the commuting to/from airports?? who forced you to book ryanair flights????

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    • Nobody forced me to. I’ve flown into Kerry a few times in the past to make it a bit easier on my parents to collect me or when a group of us have flown somewhere for a weekend etc. It seems grossly unpopular for me to say that I don’t like flying Ryanair. I wasn’t aware of such fervent support that any dissension was unacceptable. Perhaps Russia is a perfect destination given their hatred of differing views.

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    • It’s not a Hatred of different views at all, From comments here there are many people that don’t like Ryanair, and their much more vocal than others. I refer to it as “shit” because its simply not that lightly your gona cut off your arms n legs anytime soon.
      Aerlingus (and I like traveling with them) are not a full service carrier. their pretty much a budget carrier. I haven’t experienced ignorance from Ryanair crew (no more than in any walk of life) . I’ve commuted with them , directly to Manchester and Lisbon. I simply don’t see how some peoples experiences leads them too complete hatred of a company. if the annoy you that much don’t fly with them, and don’t work yourself up reading stories about their expansion. Where you might get a reply that is contrary to your own view ..

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  • I bet the Quinn’s are going to like this, Ryan air are thinking about building an airport in Cavan considering the close financial links some families have there….

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  • Great! The gangsters and criminals from Russia can get here quicker!

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  • simples

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  • Oh no Kevin, I think any slim chance you had with Natalia is slimmer than a stick insect on a diet.

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  • It is good for Ireland and for Russia. Russia is a huge market to explore and to sell to. You better fly on the Boings rather than on russian old aircrafts…..buit in USSR. Peresrtoyka, vodka, balalika…and ryanair-sounds all good

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  • Great…….get ready for a further influx of economic migrants to take full advantage of our more than generous welfare applecart!!!! Ryanair thrives on it

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    • I understand where you come from but I think you (like most of the people in this country) have got it wrong.

      Ok, someone on the dole gets circa €10k a year
      Someone who works for a Multinational gets €50k a year (subsidised by the government, so basically getting paid by state in some way)
      Someone who farms gets all their money from the Irish state or EU
      Everyone in the civel services gets paid by the government
      Everyone in the state owned banks gets paid by the government
      Most solicitors and accountants now get paid by the government (through their work with the banks and NAMA.
      All the ex. civil servant pensioners receiving insane amounts from a pension they never paid into.

      To be honest, i’d rather someone from eastern europe to come here, get our dole and maybe one day contribute to the economy by setting up a business than to pay literally everyone else in this country tens of thousands when most of them would work for half the pay they get (example new teachers on 30% less than teachers hired two years ago).

      No matter what anyone says, 90% of the people in this country receive most or all of their (very high ) salaries from the state, either directly or indirectly. Not many, (outside the small business sector) have much to give out about social welfare recipients who actually get the worst of the deal in this country.

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    • Last I checked Gerry Russia wasn’t in the EU.

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    • My wife and her family just happen to be one of these “migrants” and have gone further in their contribution to this country then most of those giving out on this page!!! They have never asked the government for money, nor have they received any money which they themselves didn’t earn!! They paid in excess of 15,000 per year for their education, which they earned themselves (the were 17 or so) with some help from their parents and are all now with an education above PhD level. They took FULL advantage of what was on offer in this country but had to pay for each and every step along the way. They (migrants) are damned hard workers and my wife is testament to this. She was only in the country 2 years and sat the leaving certificate exam and with 2 years experience speaking English, got an A2 higher level. They entered the country through a lengthy legal process and have earned every right to call themselves Irish, which they all are now! This crap about “economic migrants” who are going to come over here and take advantage is tiring at this stage. Can you tell me how many “migrants” have entered this country in the past 5 years and the percentage of those who immediately sponged off the state versus those who actually worked and earned their right to live here?

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    • Winston 23/10/12 #

      @Gerry, do you know anything about our emigration laws? The free movement of workers does not extend to Russia and there is very little chance of anyone from Russia gaining asylum here (unless they are the Pussy Riot).

      In addition, there would be no right for any Russians to claim welfare benefits here…

      If anything we have enough of our own scamming welfare without getting upset about anybody else!

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    • Winston 23/10/12 #

      @Tara, I don’t know where you learned your maths but you could do with some retraining.

      You’ve essentially stated that everyone in the state is being subsided by the state and that there is zero wealth generation.

      Your maths, and logic, fail to add up!

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    • Oh look! Another dog ugly dude who managed to pull himself a foreign wife(probably the accent) sticking up for immigrants and regaling us with anecdotal stories about how great foreigners are whilst running down Irish people.

      How original.

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    • @Kevin, from the looks of it you may be traveling the world to find a wife yourself. I’m qualified to say you have the face of a bulldog and I’d make a guess from your contribution, a similar level of intelligence.

      If you have nothing to actually add to this debate then go back to your chips and playstation!

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    • Post under your real name and photo, Adonis!

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    • Winston 23/10/12 #

      I don’t need to as the points I raise are always related to the facts of the debate and not, until you made it so, on the look of the individual contributing.

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    • Totally agree….

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    • @ Kieran Crosbie…. must have set you back a few bob when the wife insisted the whole family come over with her… but sure love is a funny thing

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  • and the bigest one being. Michael o leary

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    • Why are we always knocking our own!?! What’s wrong with this country? The guy has built one of the most successful commercial ventures on this Island and given hundreds employment in addition to provided cheap flights to people who want them.

      More Michaels of this sort please!

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    • People said the same thing about Quinn a few years back. It’s all a matter of time before it either collapses in on itself or grows into a giant manipulative monopoly…

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    • Winston 23/10/12 #

      Same attitude; ‘If he/she is Irish and successful then they have to be corrupt… If not we’ll look forward to the day they fail.’

      Can we not show some support for those Irish people who have worked their asses off to make a success of their life and in doing, provided hundreds of jobs and contributed millions in taxes!

      Bravo to them !!!

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  • You don’t have to be from the EU Bilbo…..take a look around you!!!!

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  • #Winston

    Hi are you by any chance Michael o learys pa .

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  • Think you should check that one out Norman…..

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