http://www.ryanair.com/doc/news/2012/iaa_report_valencia_EN.pdf

Down in the report it also states Easyjet and LAN Chile aircraft declared maydays too at the same time.enough said.

I never made any comparison with Iberia to Ryanair Mick, I am not taking my information from Spanish media and this is a public forum so I can freely make whatever comments I like. In fact I am an engineer (not an aeronautical engineer but an engineer nonetheless) and you are a barman but I would never have the arrogance to suggest that somebody with your particular skill set shouldn’t make a comment on a public forum. And what’s with the “over and out” crap? This isn’t the army. #gobs1te

Never said you compared Iberia,I did,I am a licensed Aircraft Engineer so therefore I probably know a lot more about it than you,over and out

Jaysus Mick, you are a busy man. Barman of the year, a licensed Aircraft Engineer and a Bull with military lingo to boot. How do you get the time to post here. Mick ‘The Walter Mitty’ Daly more like.

Congratulations on meeting the MINIMUM acceptable safety standards…

Teach them a lesson about what?

Ryanair have pulled routes from Reus Girona and Valencia etc. because local councils have stopped paying Ryanair subsidies, although Ryanair is the largest airline carrier in Spain they don’t have the best relations with local authorities and government

Chris, Ryanair play the “airport charge” card everywhere. They typically agree a deal with an airport for reduced landing charges for the first couple of years of operations in order to assist the route in achieving profitability. Once the deal expires, Ryanair are expected to pay the published charges – instead however, they make waves about high charges and threaten to pull out. Given Spain’s economic issues, the last thing local governments need is to be subsidising O’Leary’s very healthy profits.

Surely thats good business. When your contract expires you always try to get the best deal possible for you/your company etc.

I never said it wasnt good business, but when the “deal” involves tax payer support, and threats, sometimes the airports will fight back a bit. Ryanair go for the juggular in their press statements, often deriding the local authorities. The last thing Spain needs now is a spoiled airline holding them over a barell demanding subsidies under threat of removal of business. If Ryanair wanna play dirty, why cant the Spanish?

Do you know how many other airlines suffered loss of cabin pressure this year? loss of cabin pressure is an extremely rare occurrence which can happen to any airline. Ryanair been one of the largest airlines in the world is gonna have notably more incidences!

I don’t John but maybe you could enlighten me. I do, however, know that Ryanair had not one but two issues with cabin pressure in the last year which I am told, by an aeronautical engineer, is unprecedented. I have also been told that the according to the European standards for aviation safety that a minimum amount of fuel of 30 minutes longer than the required journey should be carried. This is for passenger safety. These incidents and the three emergency landings in one day due to minimum fuel policy is what had Spanish officials over speaking with the IAA recently.

Wayne, 2 cabin pressure incidents with a busy fleet of almost 300 aircraft is definitely not unprecedented. In fact, i’d say its lower than average given Ryanair’s busy schedule.

Wayne you are aware on that day in question those flights were diverted as were many others some of which also had to declare a mayday due to fuel.The facts are available online if you care to search.

I don’t know Norm, if I am I aware as you suggest, then I hardly need to search the facts. Besides, I don’t think those Spanish lads just popped over for an in-flight meal or to catch some rays.

There are a few notable incidents RE Ryanair and cabin pressure, yes. All incidents were dealt with by the book – release the oxygen masks, descend to 10,000ft. There’s s Daily Mail article which says that the speedy descent was terrifying (4,000 feet per min, as opposed to about 1,800 normally), it would have been a heck of a lot more terrifying had they not descended or descended slower.
Ryanair is one of the safest airlines in the world when you take into account the passenger numbers flown and the number of active aircraft in their fleet.
Like them or loathe them, I really don’t think anyone need worry about their safety record – its absolutely impeccable.

Wayne so you’re not aware of the facts?but feel justified in posting a comment in ignorance, well done you!

more to do with the aircraft its self, the 737-800 has had a lot of these incedents, google southwest airlines 737 800.

@Wayne. Best to read the facts first though instead of posting drivel!
http://avherald.com/h?article=454af355/0000&opt=0

if they we’re carrying minimum how we’re they able to enter a holding pattern at Madrid, divert to Valencia enter another holding pattern and land with 30mins fuel remaining?? I think you’re still confused mate!

It seems that you are the confused one John. We’re = we are. Legal minimum does not mean the exact amount for the flight only.

In this particular instance, if what you are saying is correct, then I won’t argue but you should note that Ryanair have been ordered to review their minimum fuel policy as a result of multiple emergency landings recently – cause (according to cabin crew): insufficient fuel. There have also been a number reported incidents regarding loss of cabin pressure and other technical difficulties. These are the facts.

Wayne in all fairness an airline with over 230 planes will expect a certain amount of issues like this. A small airline like Aer Lingus for example you won’t hear about that often as they have a much smaller number of aircraft in the fleet i.e less than 50.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I am by no means a fan of Ryanair but their safety record is beyond reproach. If you don’t like them then don’t fly with them but don’t try and impose your unfairly biased views on the rest of us.