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Column: Your bank, your debt or your mental health – which will crack first?

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ON MANY OCCASIONS over the last 100 years, history has been made by individuals who took on the might of major corporations in the pursuit of justice.

This scenario is most apparent when you review the history of litigation against cigarette companies. In 1988, a tobacco company was ordered to pay damages for the first time in the United States. A federal jury in Newark, New Jersey, ordered Liggett Group, Inc, to pay $400,000 to the family of Rose Cipollone, a longtime smoker who died of lung cancer in 1984.

Historical, litigation precedents have been born in the United States. However, one could start to believe that little old Ireland could be the next country to join the elite club – but for all the wrong reasons. It started with a gut feeling but has now become more than that. The reason – Shepherd’s Pie,  my personal story of dealing with recession, and the effect on me and my family while trying to discover the road to recession. The story also communicates very clearly my experiences in dealing with Irish banks.

At least 25 readers of my book made contact directly with me to tell their stories. The phone call normally starts with a warm congratulations – followed by a comment that normally says “my story is very similar”, followed by my asking: “Which bank is it?” I hear  sobbing on the  line followed by an uncomfortable silence. I say: “Which bank is it and tell me what the they are doing to you.”

The consistent message is that all callers are at breaking point, mentally exhausted, stretched to the point that normal life has been parked. Many businesses, having survived the last three years, now find themselves at the mercy of banks  as the business owner fights to stop the withdrawal of overdrafts,  a receiver or in some cases to stop a challenge against the most sacred asset held, the family home.

Given the many SOS calls to my office, and having suffered at the hands of the banks myself, I now find myself asking the question: Is it not now just a matter of time before the family of a suicide victim mounts a legal challenge against a bank for causing the death of a family member?

The attack from banks in most cases has been aggressive, brutal and strong enough to challenge the mental health of the strongest

Outrageous as it might seem I truly believe that this country is fast approaching a point where real damage will be caused to communities and families all over the country unless banks change tactics or at the very least train their key staff in mental health awareness. Furthermore one could also argue that it is only a matter of time before a bank finds itself defending its position from a staff member who mounts a legal case for damage to their own mental health as a result of being placed in an environment that they are not trained to cope with.

How could any person acting in the best interests of a bank or following specific instructions of that bank be asked to rationalise the suicide of a customer that they were having to apply pressure on? Such a command goes well beyond the right of any employer. To assume that such fragility doesn’t exist within the customer base of any bank in this country is simply naive. The attack from banks in most cases has been aggressive, brutal and strong enough to challenge the mental health of the strongest however given acute recession fatigue (experienced by many SMEs) most find that their mental health is already compromised.

Both customers and bank officials need to be protected as a matter of urgency. My calls on this subject have not fallen on deaf ears. The Samaritans have backed my call to help train bank officials while Aware agreed that it would be more beneficial for banks, clients and debt collection agencies to work together.

However, it was a cry for help from within one pillar bank the rattled me the most.

At the end of a recent bank  meeting I found myself being ushered to a corner where a senior official suggested that my experience in dealing with the bank could and should be put to good use whereby I might be able to improve the communication between the client and and the bank. The same official shared with me the real fear within the corridors of this particular bank suggesting that not only were they acutely aware of the risks but that there was a real desire to address these. Perhaps a sniff of progress? Perhaps a sign of change?

Clearly at least one bank is willing therefore we must take that olive branch and use it now to entice all parties to the table. Such a dramatic but positive move would send a message to the four corners of this island that there is hope and that as a society we are starting to learn from our mistakes. Failure to heed the signals, failure to listen to the cries for help from both sides will cause further loss of life in this country. As a society we recognise the dramatic increase in suicide in the last 4 years. We discuss and analyse daily however we fail to act.

Failing to act now, turning our back and walking away is no better than walking away from a river bank to the screams and cries of neighbour being swept away by an angry river. The question we must ask now is can we live with that?

The Samaritans are on 1850 60 90 90 24 hours a day

The Aware helpline is 1890 303 302

George Mordaunt is the author of Shepherd’s Pie: Family Business, Recession and Recovery – The Real Story, published by Mercier Press, €16.99 in bookshops nationwide. The book was sparked by an address he made to politicians and Irish company chiefs at a Chamber of Commerce conference in 2010 on how bust businesses can lift themselves out of the mire and recover. The ‘Shepherd’s Pie’ moment refers to the point at which Mordaunt could no longer put food on his family table and which prompted him to stand up the banks and use innovation to work his way out of the trouble his business was in.  He is Managing Director of the Mordaunt Group, a family business based in Clonmel, Co Tipperary and an advocate for SMEs.

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Comments (17 Comments)

  • RP McMurphy 24/12/11 #
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    Well done Mr Mordaunt. Read and re-read your book, and it has been wonderfully helpful and inspiring. I too considered several times what it would be like to see my family trailing my hearse just because of business decisions made, opportunities followed and ideas financed and failed. I completely revised my outlook, regrouped, knuckled down, and can see some(small glimmer of) light having taken advise you gave. And that is only over the period of the last 2-3 months! The future is brighter for many self-employed, entrepreneurial types because of you and your courage to write your book and the above opinion piece. Thank you and Happy Christmas to you and your family.

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  • Anthony Byrne 24/12/11 #
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    Excellent article…

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  • CMD 24/12/11 #
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    There are a number of very decent and sympathetic staff working at local level in a lot of our banks but unfortunately their hands are tied by the greedy money men at the top end of the scale who only look at figures and the bottom line. They never think of the lives being torn apart by their unreasonable demands. It’s only when these individuals are exposed to real pressure from government and from, as you suggest law suits that some may change their ways and attitude. And it won’t be from compassion but from fear of loss of face and power.

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  • John Murphy 24/12/11 #
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    During a business meeting 60 miles from home I stepped out to take a call from my bank at 11am. I was told that they were closing my overdraught (which was in credit) and that if I was not at the local bank branch by 12noon with cash to meet the cheques that were due they would be ‘bounced’. This was because my marriage was over!
    That was 10 years ago. I have never since been inside the door of a bank and know what? Life’s Great.
    Happy Xmas and a prosperous future to all who are suffering at the hands of these Shylocks.

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  • James Doyle 24/12/11 #
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    F**k the banks,f**k your debt your health is the main priorty in these times when the eu and our own government are bending us over a barrel,can’t wait for a revolution soon

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    • Jammy Mason 24/12/11 #
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      Completely agree with you! Nothing is worth sacrificing your health over. The Dalai Lama put it nicely when he was asked about what surprises him about humanity;

      “Man. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.”

      ~ Dalai Lama

  • Mick Flynn 24/12/11 #
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    Banks are primarily corporate bullies,and you know what happens bullies when you stand up to them. My business folded due to the actions of Banks, Developers, I read no book/s on dealing with them. When they got heavy I met them head on , and faced them down. I explained in clear and unequivical terms the exact position I was in , that I was refusing to allow myself be intimdated by them, their super dooper clients ( developers) didnt pay me, I told them talk to them, and f**k off and dont be annoying me, I had no money, no way of repaying them, and no prospect of being able to pay them. If they wished to see me in Gaol, fine, all my dealings withh them were insured,talk to your insurers.
    Every loan /overdraught from a bank is insured,in event it becomes a bad debt they can write off a % each year in their revenue returns, and guess what in 5 years they have recouped it, and if you manage to find the money to repay them after the 5 years , they win on thhe double. let them all go Shite.

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  • Bernadette Dunne 24/12/11 #
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    What a fantastic article thank you for writing it mystery and I am going to get your book
    Happy Christmas to you and your Family and all the best for 2012

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  • Auntie Dote 24/12/11 #
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    Any chance of joining forced with the fellows at newbeginning.ie? A popular movement to transform ‘our’ banks would be fantastic.

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  • Finipops 24/12/11 #
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    Where’s the skull option?

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  • Anne Loughlin 24/12/11 #
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    Not an economist or indeed a business person but I was gripped by George’s book, for it’s honesty, it’s analysis and the strong messages there for the everyday person as well as Government Ministers and Banks. So glad George had the courage to write it and so glad I read Shepherd’s Pie.

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  • Anne Loughlin 24/12/11 #
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    Whilst I am not an economist or indeed a business person I was drawn to read George’s Book. His honest and analytical account of the “rise and fall” gripped me throughout. There are strong and encouraging mesages in “Shepherd’s Pie” for many people and some huge learning for Government Ministers and Banks if they have the wisdom to listen. Thank you George Mordaunt

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  • Enda McCabe 24/12/11 #
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    This tripe was written I assume by the same George Mordaunt who was essentially a car salesman, and spent the Celtic Tiger years flying customers around in helicopters. ?? This man is part of the problem, not the solution.

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    • RP McMurphy 24/12/11 #
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      Enda, you are right and correct. And he tells us all about it the book, and tells us how stupid he feels today about it all. So your comment is a swipe at a humbled man and therefore of no effect.

  • Adam Magari 24/12/11 #
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    The government isn’t listening. Elected by the people, but run by the banks. We have had business cards cancelled, overdrafts withdrawn temporarily, etc. The only way forward has been not to rely on bank credit in Ireland. The other shoe yet to drop is the Revenue.

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  • Tess McGuinness 24/12/11 #
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    Great Book, and it is essential for so many of us to have someone to identify with, otherwise there would be a few less of us alive at present.
    The people have woken up. those who played the game and lost are not going to be bullied by institutions that couldn’t care less whether you can afford to feed your kids or not. Their bottom line is that they have targets and they’ll get a nice bonus if they meet them. Yes – they are STILL getting bonuses, while people are stressed, getting ill and taking their own lives.
    It doesn’t really matter whose fault it is, the problem now belongs to us all, and generations to come. It is not, and never will be, about the good of the people. It’s about a SYSTEM, and keeping it going. But the SYSTEM is flawed and can never be mended. We need the SYSTEM to come to a halt and start again, from the ground up. They did it ninety years ago, with less knowledge and education, and yes made mistakes. But we are better placed now to SCRAP our tax system and put in place something that is fair and works. And stop people borrowing such incredible sums as to bankrupt our country. The System is failing, and if we do not have a plan B, then we are in big trouble. There are so many incredibly bright economists in this country. Enda should swallow that pride, and let go of his EGO and start listening.
    We also need to remember that we voted for our TD’s, we put them there to represent us. Maybe it is time we all let them know ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

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  • Ryan Murphy 25/12/11 #
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    Going back to the core thrust of this, which is employee training.

    Bank employees (who are ordinary people, btw, not demons) are tasked with dealing with those at the end of their tether, many of said same employees having being charged with giving away mortgages and exercising an ethos of sell sell sell, when capital was unlimited, and any almost cohesive missive was signed off on without demur. Now there’s nothing in the kitty (even though the banks are capitalised to the hilt, thanks to you and me), so, instead of gravy, the bank people are serving gruel, even though the pots are empty, and “more” isn’t an option, not even more time…

    Contrast this with what I heard today, where sales staff in many of the large retail chains have been taken aside and instructed and trained at length in how to deal with “last minute man” who is invariably pointed to the most expensive and margin lucrative items remaining on the shelf in the run up to the big day, whether they suit him or not.

    Where the fuck are we at?

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