Business ETC uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Click here to find out more »
Dublin: 10 °C Monday 20 May, 2013

Column: Why David Cameron made the right decision…

Those in the eurozone are facing a ‘lost decade’, writers former trader Nick Leeson – and who would want to hand over more policy-making power to the managers of that crisis?

Nick Leeson

WE WOKE YESTERDAY morning to the sight of the stock markets and the euro under downward pressure. Goldman Sachs is warning of a ‘lost decade’ and analysts at the Bank of America are warning that a possible break-up of the common currency will lead to the next Great Depression.

Wherever you turn there is very strong language describing the difficulties that we all face. Losing a decade as Goldman describes is not encouraging – we only exist on this planet for on average seven to eight decades. Losing one of those through the folly of our leaders and bankers would significantly increase the cost that we all have already paid.

Let’s hope that we are already three and a half years into that lost decade rather than at the beginning. For three and a half years now we have bounced from perceived solution to perceived solution without really getting any nearer solving the problem. Banks have been repeatedly recapitalised, many European countries have seen massive austerity packages and yet we still fail to see a light at the end of the tunnel. The difficulties that we face are spreading like the virus that they are as we now face financial, sovereign and constitutional crises.

The EU summit that concluded last week was the latest attempt at a solution but to many observers this descended into farce after David Cameron withdrew his support for the treaty.

It’s strange for me to reconcile his decision being an Englishman living in Ireland, a country which depends on the common currency. But I think that he made the right decision. If we could turn back time I’m sure that the Irish people would probably have made the same decision. I see entry into the euro as the catalyst for the problems that Ireland now face, lured in by many of the EU monies available, cheap credit very quickly became too readily available and we gorged on it. The developers – granted – more than most but we all had our fair share and there was nobody in tune enough to control the mounting debt levels.

If you were you David Cameron though and faced with that decision on Friday, would you have reacted differently? I don’t think anybody could.

The UK signing the EU treaty would have been like entering a partnership with Anglo Irish

Let’s look at the facts. Staying out of the common currency has pretty much ensured that the UK will face a less damaging recession than the rest of us. You (as Cameron) are now being asked to hand over more financial and fiscal policy to a governing organisation that has not done particularly well (and which many would say has failed spectacularly). They have continually failed to stem the crisis and rather than passing over more control, the sensible thing would be to wrest some control back.

It would be like entering a partnership with Anglo Irish or giving me the keys to the Exchequer and asking me to give them back after a day’s trading on the markets. Both would be foolish in the extreme, probably far more than that.

Unfortunately, the eurozone sovereigns remain under pressure after the lack of decisive action last week. We are warned again that after the latest raft of stress tests that some banks face another huge shortfall and quite rightly the markets continue to shun government debt and the euro. Many of the strategies proposed so far have been flawed. Banks were encouraged to buy sovereign debt to shore up their risk and bolster their capital adequacy. As their values have dropped it has done the opposite. Credibility is at an all-time low in the market and nothing is picking it off the floor. The EU now faces a possible S&P downgrade.

We continue to face very difficult decisions. There has to be pain, of that there is no doubt, the depth of the difficulties that we face means that there is no pain-free exit from this situation. The Budget here was not received well and understandably so. We are all being hit in the pocket and in support functions that we all rely on to survive but the cuts quite simply had to be made. The question is whether or not they made the cuts in the right places. Saving lives by retaining funding in the health sector or moving a roundabout in Galway ten metres to the side? I know which one I’d choose.

I’m not in favour of the ‘lost decade’ forecast by Goldman Sachs. Each time the banks are recapitalised I only see it as papering over the cracks until the next stress test. Rest assured that the bankers will not face this lost decade. They will party through the most difficult times feasting on the uncertainty and volatility in the market place. It is what they do.

Read next:

Comments (39 Comments)

  • Give the people of Ireland the opportunity to deliver their own judgement on Merkozy’s grand plan for Europe.

    Reply
  • Although I would strongly question his motives..he was very correct in standing up for what he believed. If only Kenny would adopt the same set of balls we might have more respect fr him.

    Reply
  • Agree completely. The accusation that Cameron is acting only in the UKs interest is completely hypocritical as France and Germany are doing the very same thing, but bullying the rest to get on board. We saw what happened when Greece tried to step outside the Merkozy agenda.

    Reply
    • Greace was and still is a very corrupt country. Their books were cooked. Should of never been let into the Euro. No one paid taxes in Greece, not proper taxes. It is their civic duty to evade tax. Now the rest of us have to suffer.

      Reply
    • Dario. The man that cooked Greece’s books was Lucas Papademos, the head of their central bank.

      The EU recently rammed him home as Prime Minister of Greece.

      No doubt Greece should never have been left in. No doubt though that Ireland, Spain, Italy, Portugal and several more should never have been either. This was pointed out by many leading economists and investors.

      If Greece go, then we go as well. It is the only sensible thing to do, if the Euro is to be saved.

      Reply
  • I think Call Me Dave is doing the right thing by his country.

    Can’t knock him for that.

    Reply
  • Another insightful article.
    What is most disconcerting about recent events is how democracy can be cast aside as an unnecessary inconvience.
    Merksozy’s handling of this crisis has been bumbling and this must make many nations question whether continued participation in the Euro is a good idea.

    Reply
  • Amazing that a lone rouge trader like yerself ended up in the doc, but if you had a Bundesbank background you could have traded recklessly on the futures of whole economies without any slaps. Your story just wasn’t big enough.

    Reply
  • Couldn’t agree more, the uk would be crazy to vote for this when they aren’t in the euro. We are unfortunately in a more difficult position. As you say hopefully we are three and half years into the lost decade because otherwise.it is too scary to think about.

    Reply
  • Paul 13/12/11 #

    The euro is dead in the water the thing is the bundesbank will do anything to save face but the more with lest that they do well we do know what happen next

    Reply
  • Excellent commentary Nick!

    Reply
  • Of course he was right just look at what happened to Cardiff – god help Ireland and the EU. The 3 Stooges, Cardiff, De Rossa, and Lucy Creten.
    Nessa Cholders deserves support (Xmas card or email) for opposing him. De Rossa (aka Frank Rossi) abused her on the phone – appalling considering her level of integrity and his lack of it. Sadly it is the likes of De Rossa and Cardiff who with the support of the our government who get their way.
    It is not that many years ago that De Rossa was being followed 24/7 by the special branch for his activities.
    These are the people in charge! Nick – hurry up and get elected.

    Reply
  • He bloody well did because who would want to stay rowing on the Titanic. The snide liar party otherwise know as the liberal democrats are crying like cats and they remind me of the greens.No serious mandate from the electorate and just embarrasingly useless thorns in everyone’s side

    Reply
  • @Reada – very short. Not too many in politics as politics corrupts. Not too many in senior positions in the bank as money corrupts. Not too many in jobs for life, croke park gang as arrogance and smugness kills me. Mind you I admire the people who deliver the meals on wheels to the elderly, the people who work stitch Simon on the soup runs, the many people who volunteer to train the kids at football and other sports, the people who train the guide dogs for the blind, the people who work for the Samaritans and Pieta house, all the people who donate to charities, the people who help people with learning difficulties, the monks who feed the poor, the people who give time and their money to Concern and Goal, the people who assist others without payment or any recognition – will I go on. I must mention our nurses and doctors in the hospitals and our firemen.

    Reply
    • Ok Frank. I’ll give you that. But it really is a sad state to be in when we can’t trust anyone. Seriously pissed off. Used to know De Rossa and thought he was alright. Agree wholeheartedly with you re lucinda. She sends shivers down my spine. Yuck.

      Reply
  • Oisin Quinn( nephew of our minister for education) is a property developer first and a councillor last. Look at the Irish times Tuesday 13th(yesterday) article about the 5 Georgian houses that he applied for and got planning permission from his own council to develop for high rise in D4. Poor Councilors have no money and would need to be paid of course. Also these Councilors are doing the job for the betterment of the people of course.

    Reply
  • Europe is increasingly being run for the benefit of some sountries above others, politically and financially. It lacks social cohesion with France and Germany having too much of the riens and prepared to shaft others, our corporation tax and the uk’s financial services.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/13/europe-hopeless-david-cameron-right

    ‘The EU refusing Britain’s request for a regulatory optout last week – no different from the long indulgence of France’s farmers – was a distraction.’

    ‘Abroad, we have Nicolas Sarkozy’s anti-British rhetoric supposedly to win him an imminent election. ‘

    Reply
  • The public sector in this country and Europe are the same bungling idiots like Cardiff get promoted this is the only way you can get rid of them I’ve seen it myself dealing with planning authorities these unelected full time permanent yobs get away with daylight incompetency of the worst kind and if they piss off enough people they get promoted

    Reply
  • @niamh it was reported in the Irish Times 10 days ago once the story came out. I was amazed as they both belong to the Labour Party. No support from the ladies of the labour party or the men but I couldn’t believe that this is the Party with Developers( the Quinns ) etc when a woman of such integrity is shot down. The founders of the party must be turning in their graves. I have no interest in the politics of labour but I thought they might fight for transperancy.

    Reply
  • Cameron is protecting the City end of and this particular journo or whatever he/ is was is made of the same cloth as the Bankers etc..who have destroyed this world and peoples lives..so please lets get rid of rose tint glasses towards the UK its a bloody mess over there!!!! riots ..25% unemployment amongst youths etc!! and a system thta doesnt look after its old or vunerable!! property taxes poll taxes ffs wake up and smell the coffee ireland is by far a better place to be!! and sorry I really cant take anything this guy writes as convincing!!

    Reply
    • I do agree with you on one point. I have an elderly aunt in Hampshire, who visits here when she can, and stays with my own (grand)mother. I stay with her when I can, when I am in the UK.

      The contrast between the two could not be more stark. My aunt pays the full amount of council tax, gets no energy concessions, and no free travel. She is subsisting on her late husband’s pension, with no assistance from the state.

      The point is not lost on my own mam (gran, really) who never complains about her lot, and is fulsome in her praise of how we do things over here.

      Reply
  • I have to challenge the remarks by Lynne about the UK’s treatment of their elderley – I have many elderly relations in the uk on state pensions and they are very well cared for. Where do you get your basis for comparison for Lynne? Two family members of mine are in the north of the country – when they have a hospital appointment they are collected from their door with a healthcare assistant to accompany them on the trip – this is in spite of the fact that they are both mobile and have their own transport. They have no charges for their healthcare and a good enough service that they don’t need to pay for private care. Their pharmacy prescriptions are delivered to their door. When they had trouble with some local kids the police called to their house every night for a week to check on them, when they go to the supermarket they are approached by a store assistant who offers to get their shopping for them while they sit and wait. They have cheap shopping, good services and are not cold and isolated in the winter which is more than a lot of pensioners here have in spite of the fact that we throw more money at them in terms of weekly payments.

    Reply
  • I have no problem with his past, it;’s his present that is the problem. At least he had principals in the past, no one would dare slander him now by ascribing any to him.

    Reply
  • Wouldn’t believe anything a trader says. Degenerate gamblers who treat money as monopoly money even if it is the life savings of ordinary people as Nick has proven. Anyway Cameron is protecting the financial sector of London and wants them to carry on their little capers. He has shown his hand in what he supports, to keep the banks unregulated.

    Reply
  • Cameron was not correct and was incredibly short sighted in seeking to pander to the eurosceptics at home rather than engage seriously with the other European leaders. Whether the UK likes it or not, their economic prospects are strongly linked to a successful euro zone and that’s far more important than any temporary advantage Cameron will gain among the EU haters in his own party and beyond. He has also seriously alienated his Liberal Democrat partners and could well have shortened the shelf life of the coalition and his own stay in Downing Street.

    Reply
    • Thing is that a successful Euro zone, as currently constituted, is an impossibility.

      Italy and Spain, among others, are locked in to a currency that automatically makes the 30% extra uncompetitive. Quiet a burden. How are those countries going to ever grow ? Add in Portugal, Ireland, France and Belgium, Malta, and all are weighed down by the Euro to some degree.

      4 or 5 more years of systemic decline, will prove this point and then the Euro, if by a miracle, it survives the current crisis, will split.

      I don’t expect it to survive the next year though in its current shape.

      Reply
    • I believe the odds still favour the Euro surviving. A collapse of the second biggest currency in the world would have dire economic consequences and not just for the Eurozone countries.

      The Euro will survive as long as there is much closer integration between the participating economies, and belated steps in this direction were taken last week – it has taken a crisis of the magnitude we are now witnessing to make European leaders realise there is no other way. Those wishing to remain inside the Eurozone must observe common fiscal rules and strictly adhere to them. And in marked contrast to the Growth and Stability Pact, Germany and France must serve as role models and not rule breakers in this area. And there is no point mourning the loss of economic sovereignty etc. Ireland is one of the most globalised economies in the world and “going it alone” is not a realistic option. Our future lies in a strong and prosperous EU and Eurozone.

      Reply
  • Lamb 14/12/11 #

    That argument is a bit all over the place . The UK has very high inflation which ‘has eased’ to over 4.5%, unemployment has increased from 7.9% to 8.3%, retail is grinding to a halt and factory ortput is down. It’s starting to look like Ireland did a few years ago except without the same problems with the banks. Of course, if unemployment goes too high the banks in the UK too will be in difficulty, they have a better base than Ireland started out from but it’s quickly being eroded. And now they have no friends left to help them out of the gutter. If we were able to, I’d like to think we could help but we’re in bad shape and too small. We rely on them heavily as a trading partner, if they go down, they might sink our ship

    Reply
  • bfreesun 19/12/11 #

    The convicted swindler who brought down Barings bank. Now there’s a reliable source for advice on how to run an economy

    Reply
  • Is there anyone you do like Frank? The list should be quite short.

    Reply

Add New Comment