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Noonan hopeful of deal on Anglo promissory note before Budget

The Minister for Finance says the timetable is to have a deal by March, but he’d like a commitment before announcing the Budget.

Michael Noonan speaks to Eurogroup president Jean-Claude Juncker before
Michael Noonan speaks to Eurogroup president Jean-Claude Juncker before
Image: Yves Logghe/AP

FINANCE MINISTER Michael Noonan has expressed his hope that a deal restructuring the government’s promissory note for Anglo Irish Bank could be reached in the coming weeks – a move which he says would make it easier to construct the next Budget.

Speaking before the first meeting of the board of governors of the new European Stability Mechanism in Luxembourg this evening, Noonan told reporters that the European political timetable was to have “a new arrangement on the promissory note by March”.

The minister said this would mean the government could avoid the next “very onerous” €3.06 billion repayment – but added that he was still seeking an even quicker conclusion of such a deal.

“It would help me doing the Budgetary arithmetic if something could be arranged, or a statement of intent could be achieved, before the Budget,” he said.

Asked if there was a realistic prospect of having a deal by Christmas, he said: “I would certainly hope that the March date is feasible.

Seeking an agreement before Christmas was “a negotiating position I’ve put forward, and I’ve stressed the importance of an earlier resolution from my perspective,” he added.

It was reported last month that the government was considering replacing the promissory notes – which, when interest is included, will cost about €47 billion over the next two decades – with a 40-year bond worth up to €40 billion.

This bond could be ‘sold’ to the former Anglo Irish Bank, now the Irish Bank Resolution Corporation. IBRC would then use the bond to go to the European Central Bank and access everyday working capital, replacing the promissory note which is presented to the Central Bank of Ireland for similar reasons.

Bank deal still possible, but not until next year

Noonan separately said a deal on allowing the new permanent Michael Noonan speaks to Eurogroup president Jean-Claude Juncker before today’s inaugural meeting of the European Stability Mechanism.Stability Mechanism – which is officially inaugurated this evening – to share the burden of recapitalisating the banks was not likely until a new pan-European banking supervisor had been set up.

He said this was currently planned for January 1, but at the latest by the end of March. When this authority had been established and could oversee the use of European money in each institution, a deal could then be sought to have the ESM take over some of the State’s banking shares.

Noonan also revealed that the Dutch finance ministry had clarified its stance following the ‘Helsinki statement’ of two weeks ago when the Netherlands, Germany and Finland appeared to rule out the use of ESM funds to recapitalise ‘legacy’ banks.

The Netherlands said this had meant they would not support the use of ESM funds for banks which were no longer active – such as IBRC – but that it could still be used to supplement lending to banks which were still lending and in full operation.

This meant that AIB and Bank of Ireland could be eligible for help from the ESM, irrespective of the fact that the Irish taxpayer has already injected the necessary funds into those banks.

The minister commented that the terms of the ESM’s establishment – which include specified interest rates to be charged to banks which access its funds – indicated to him that there was full European support for the earlier commitment to break the link between banks and states.

Read: Ireland may issue 40-year bond to replace promissory notes – report

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  • mike 08/10/12 #

    A forty year bond. Just enough time for all involved to be dead.. And our kids will have to deal with it.. That’s what you call the perfect kick of the can down the road.

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  • pagan 08/10/12 #

    Jesus. Its like a broken record with this governsnt. All im hearing is Were hopeful of a deal on Anglo.
    Grow a pair of balls and change the record.

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    • Have 0% faith in what he says, a total doubting Thomas with regard to the government at the moment. And while you are at it arrange a max interest rate that banks can charge mortgage holders, all these half percent increases add up over time and if it get to double digits things will get very very bad.

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    • Hes just playing his part in this charade. He is complicit in the looting of our country. Hes not on our side, never was and never will. Even the blind can see that.

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  • Here’s a quick resolution – Refuse to pay it! And when you’re asked why tell them with the bailout and everything that came with it, Ireland stopped the spread of fiscal instability to the rest of the Eurozone and we didn’t get an ounce of help or thanks with it or for it. See how they like them apples.

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    • Cunning. Just one thing: Gardai, hospitals, roads, schools, firemen….who’s going to pay for that, exactly once we’ve adopted your superbly crafted economic strategy?

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    • Same people who are paying for the bank bailouts Killian. Did you ever hear about Iceland and how that country went about sorting itself out?

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    • Iceland’s in the EU, is it Kerry? We’d be an economic wasteland for decades if we walked away from our debts. And by the way- it’s our debt. We owe it. We went nuts for ten years- with the big houses, cars and holidays. And we’ve no one else to blame but ourselves. Let me guess- you didn’t. Tired of that line too.

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    • Eh Killian did you ever hear of NAMA? Nothing to do with big cars and holidays. Maybe you need to do a bit more research before following the party line? If your at fault take your medicine I see no reason why I should cover your excesses.

      Also seeing your so certain we would be a economic waste land for decades can you point our one county that after defaulting spent ‘decades’ ??

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    • How’s Greece doing, Kerry? You reckon FDI will be queuing up to do business in Athens any time soon?

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    • And NAMA’s there, Kerry because people exactly because of holidays, cars and greed. People buying houses they couldn’t afford, very often buying two or three houses and bloating the market. Not to mention people taking 100% mortgages, sometimes 110% mortgages. Any if that ring a bell with you? Or do you need to do some more research?

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  • In other words he will have some line of bull-shit to spin to the people in the hope it keeps him and enda in power after they do like all good politicians do now and financially rape the middle and lower classes in the budget with cuts and taxes while increasing the speed on the elite money train for them and there rich mates.

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  • This is getting boring now … Michael ‘Hopeful’ Noonan, more like Michael ‘Hopeless’ Noonan!

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  • Dear Mr Noonan,

    Never mind Time Magazine, the majority of Our people want to see your party on the back of a milk carton!

    Get lost…

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    • Think you will find majority don’t

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    • #shayne. …..the last election would suggest you’re wrong.

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    • Next election that hopefully will come soon, may l suggest you are wrong Declan and Killian. Hopefully it will come very soon before those who said not a penny more or Labours way or Frankfurts way do not pay more money over to unsecured bond holders 18 billion this year so far what a record….

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    • Yes. That would be fantastic Kerry. Maybe the evil axis of Fine Gael & Labour could be replaced by a winning combination of Fianna Fáil, the architects of our economic catastrophe and Sinn Fein, whose only experience of dealing with banks involves balaclavas and a teller handing cash over the counter. We’d be soooooo lucky.

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    • Yeah Killian FG/Lab don’t even bother with the balaclava and they are so stupid to hand over 18 billion euro to the banks! Also should you not check out FG, SF and Labour’s calls for more money to be spent while they were in opposition? 18 months in and all we have Stroke Reilly to look at.

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    • Yes Kerry. Being determined to stay in the Eurozone is really stupid. We don’t need foreign direct investment here. We can thatch our rooves and sit around the fireplace drinking Poitin and reading Peig Sayers. Refusing to pay = exit from Eurozone = economic abyss.

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  • Sounds like yet more posturing. 1 1/2 years in Govt and still nothing concrete from this shower. I hope this isn’t a half-arsed attempt to calm the mood of the public pre-budget.

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    • thats all it is.i dont even listen to them anymore.they constantly tell bs lies.noonan is a bilderberg lapdog so we know where he is receiving his orders from.

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    • Nothing concrete? Growth restored. Commercial sovereign lending rates halved on the open market. Interest rates on our loans reduced. Genuine prospect of getting the IMF out of our country and sovereignty restored. I know it’s easier to lazily criticise and more populist to whine about the Government. Just know you sound ridiculous saying it…

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    • Don’t just tap the thumbs down icon. That requires finger dexterity. Chimps have that. If I’ve told a mistruth, contradict me.

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  • the negotiating position is bent over and begging

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  • Killlian is just another YFG continuity Fianna failer who toes the party line. You’re dead right about one thing killian , I don’t blame Noonan et al I blame the people who voted for FF and continuity FF. You say Iceland isn’t in the EU. You’re right they’re not! But you answered the big question. They’re not dancing at the crossroads or drinking potin. Switzerland isn’t in the EU either how are they doing? If we were Iceland now wed he on a roll. We have the potential (or we did) ourselves to get out of this mess. One things for sure Continuity Fianna Fáil just like its professor the Greens will hold on to power at all costs. This isn’t about Us the people. This is about fat EU pensions, CPA pensions and lining the pockets of the same people who got us here in the first place. Our only hope ( and I think it will come soon) is another Leman black swan type event that will bring this whole pyramid system down. The whole ESM leveraged farce is very precarious. Noonan knows this and is playind classic poker delay tactics to fool the coping classes. Think Greece was bad? Watch this space.

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  • Talking boll*x again, simple as that

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  • Oh look… A pink elephant has just landed in Dublin airport.

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  • How can 2m working people be expected to pay for the greed of those feted on the back page !!!!! Where are all the maybacks now !!!!! Developers driving cars worth 700k and now we know the taxpayer funded the rich

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    • #Paul Were you hibernating during the Celtic Tiger years? You really believe it was a handful of bankers and developers who did this? The whole country didn’t go greedy, no? We didn’t keep voting in a FF Government we knew to be corrupt to keep the good times coming, no?

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    • Killian did you never hear of NAMA. Grow up for god sake and understand we the people are paying for the greed of a few and inept politicians.

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    • Grow up, Kerry? You’re the one who’s like a petulant child rolling around on the floor of the supermarket aisle, stamping your feet screaming ” I don’t want to pay! I don’t want to pay! I don’t want to pay!!!!!! Ireland is a modern sophisticated country playing in the big league, Kerry. And it will survive this and prosper. But serious times call for serious people. All clowns off the stage.

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    • Don’t you love it when people underscore their weak position by resorting to name-calling?

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    • @Killian
      So, since you’re so clever, tell me where the money is? How much of the 67 billion euro went to repay bad debt? Half, you say? No. Try €600’000 of the 3 billion allocated and given to banks. That’s about a couple cents from every single taxpayer. The other 64 billion has gone straight to bondholders in Europe.

      Yes, maybe there were excesses during the CT years. Can’t deny it. You seem in full denial that it’s still going on though, how about you tell me how much money the taxpayer spends on expenses like hair cuts and ladies underwear? If you said 500 million euro, you’d be wrong. It’s over a billion euro – in expenses that are untaxed, unvouched, and include the mere act of showing up to do their job.

      What you fail to understand, is that this country is in trouble. We’re in trouble NOT because people are out of control, or because we are poor debt repayers, but because Enda Kenny and his ilk insist on milking the working man – the worker, the one who is the economy – and instead passes massive tax breaks to his wealthy pals, while increasing his own income. Why yes, he recently gave himself a top up of €10’000 – on top of his existing salary which was more than 20% higher than his peers in much larger countries, countries which don’t have billion euro expenses and lavish jets.

      You like to laugh and poke at the people who are actually infected by this pathetic excuse of a government, but tell me this: who is responsible for the budget that is sucking the economy to the point of collapse? Who wrote that budget?

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  • Juncker looks like he’s taken his wallet out to give Noonan a few bob…:)

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  • * lend you. Damn phone!

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  • Caption “so if I does add a two and a two, I gets a four? Hur, Hur, them number things is funny. Thanks Mista Jean-Claude!”

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  • Caption for this photo: “You want me to lend HOW much, Michael?”

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  • Croke Park costs a lot more than promissory notes! Gonna do something about that Michael?

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