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Here's how an upcoming VAT flip-flop could affect small Irish businesses

The Government won’t mind the change – it’s set to receive millions in extra revenue.

AN UNUSUAL FLIP-FLOP of tax rules in the European Union has some retailers up in arms.

There are fears it could result in extra costs – and a lot more paperwork – for small businesses.

“This new legislation will cripple, and potentially force into closure, thousands of micro-businesses across the UK – just as this government claims to be trying to make it easier for small businesses to grow and create jobs,” a petition in the UK read.

Currently, if a customer buys anything from an online vendor, they will pay VAT at the rate of the country the retailer is resident in.

From January 1st, this reverses, and so the tax rate of where the customer is resident will apply.

Services included are electronically supplied services such as apps, music, online games, e-books, digital newspapers and web hosting services, mobile and fixed-line telephone services, and radio and television broadcasting services.

The effect on customers and businesses aside, this is good news for Ireland, according to Government.

The system is being changed to target companies setting up in countries like Luxembourg and enjoying the low rate of VAT paid there.

It’s estimated Luxembourg could lose out massively, but Ireland will benefit by an estimated €100 million next year.

Minister for Finance Michael Noonan explained earlier this year:

The reason Ireland is set to gain from the VAT changes is because we are a net recipient of electronic and broadcasting services from other Member States.
In terms of inward supplies, the estimate is mainly driven by 1) UK-based television services and 2) Luxembourg-based electronically supplied services.

For customers, this isn’t too much of an issue, but across in the United Kingdom campaigns have been set up to fight the system, resulting in a u-turn by the government to allow companies under a certain turnover to retain their VAT exemption.

Here in Ireland, the Irish Small and Medium Enterprise association has said at first the system seemed like a shock, but it will actually benefit businesses.

CEO Mark Fielding said while small businesses will have to charge customers more, so will their competitors in other countries.

“Some companies had to compete against others based in Luxembourg, where their VAT system was giving them an advantage over other countries,” he explained.

Now, everyone will be on a level playing field.

He noted it was originally feared that business owners would have to submit VAT returns to each and every EU country where a customer bought a product, but under a new system this is largely automated.

Revenue has set up a Mini One Stop Shop (MOSS). This allows the business to be ‘resident’ for the system in one country, and submit their VAT returns through it. The tax owed is then shared out amongst the relevant countries.

However, this means that a tiny business – for example, someone selling a few ebooks online – will have to register for VAT regardless of their turnover.

Fielding said this shouldn’t be an issue.

“Registering for VAT early is just good business ethics,” he said, and that the long-term benefits registering outweigh the short-term benefits of not.

If you’re serious about business, and if you want to grow your business, the earlier you register for VAT, the better.

Ireland’s standard rate of tax is currently 23%, the eighth highest in the world according to a recent OCED report.

Read: Have restaurants and hotels been reaping all the spoils while workers suffer? >

More: Ireland’s economy flatlined over the summer, but Michael Noonan’s not worried >

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    Mute pat mustard
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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:50 PM

    Anyone read the Guardian today, reporting on how penalty points were squashed for the editor of the Irish Independent, they are questioning the integrity of Irish journalists and news outlets for not asking questions.

    I expected the journal to at least have something on it.

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    Mute TheIrishBrain
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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:42 PM

    Thats what has the country Ducked,The journalist are just staying stum to help secure their future employment.Meanwhile the people suffer without a voice.

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    Mute pat mustard
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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:47 PM

    And the one journalist who wanted to continue asking questions about penalty points got fired by guess who- the same editor who had penalty points quashed, this country is so full of corruption it really is sickening.

    There is an inner circle of politicians, the media and certain higher professionals that run this country as they like and the rest of us are mere minions who must do as we are told.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:58 PM

    Are we really looking for integrity when we speak about journalists? The least they could’ve done was give the job to someone gook lookling

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 8:03 PM

    keep up the good work pat of letting us know that this is not a democracy also another beaut heading to RTE to fill us with pure crap that they throw at us.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:27 PM

    I heard Pat Kenny has moved to Newstalk.

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    Mute Angela Kelly
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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:37 PM

    No, you’re kidding me, when? Why have I never seen that reported on the journal? Seems very odd that they never saturate their pages with stories about RTE or radio stations owned by multi billionaires.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:19 PM

    I’m sure there was an fair and open candidate search for this taxpayer sponsored job

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:07 PM

    In other news:
    My cats breath smells like cat food.

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    Mute Angela Kelly
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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:04 PM

    Why is this news?

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:07 PM

    Hi Angela,

    It is filed in the ‘Media’ Section of Business Etc.

    Thanks
    Sinéad

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:11 PM

    No pleasing some Sinead :-)

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:19 PM

    I can see that, admittedly my eyesight isn’t great but I’m not blind. Does ‘The Journal’ source these ‘Media’ stories or do the individuals involved send their own press release in?

    Angela

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:36 PM

    Like a number of reports on Journal and Sport.ie, the original question still remains. Why is this news? Or do you just regurgitate press released from RTE?

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:45 PM

    Hi Mick, Angela,

    This wasn’t press-released by RTÉ but as we have a ‘Media’ section in our Business Etc vertical, it would then make sense to report on major recruitment decisions at Ireland’s public service broadcaster.

    Also, there’s loads of other news here if you want to read something else: http://www.thejournal.ie/

    Cheers
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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:55 PM

    Me thinks she will make RTE alot easier to watch while listening to the BS the TDs are spouting. Yup alot more pleasing on the eye…

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:16 PM

    A real journalist would not join RTE particularly the political department. might as well work for the Fine Gael press office you will be repeating the same sound bites either way. She looks nice though maybe she will rebel and ask a government minister a real question for a change.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 8:19 PM

    Tough crowd tonight Sinéad.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 8:24 PM

    Why is this tough cheeky bums!
    Or some such malarkey.

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    Oct 4th 2013, 9:48 AM

    What defines news? Why’d you click on the article? Go get laid, you’ll find you’re less inclined to nitpic then.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:33 PM

    When I grow up I want to be a pol coll

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:30 PM

    If the Journal’s reporting pisses people off so much, why not go somewhere else for news?

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:21 PM

    @davidmurphyRTE, too good a political correspondent to loose to Washington. Needed at home.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:36 PM

    Erm, David Murphy isn’t a Political Correspondent, he’s Business Editor. If you mean David McCullagh or David Davin-Power, you clearly haven’t read the article!

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:41 PM

    Touchy, touchy Donal! This weather is getting to me too.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:06 PM

    Too many Davids.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 9:43 PM

    Jobs for the boys/girls in RTE, can they ever advertise for some new blood ???

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:03 PM

    Wouldn’t mind corresponding with her if you know what I mean wink wink

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:25 PM

    Who?

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:44 PM

    “Reached out” did he? I thought that was only something the Democrats did to the Republicans

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 6:38 PM

    I think they should send Robert Shortt back there, after all he was good at it last time and is the person they chose to send in the interim. Haven’t seen David Murphy report on anything other than Business so hard to judge if he’d be any good.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 8:02 PM

    Politics just got even better!

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 8:39 PM

    Good on the eyes as well very important.

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:54 PM

    Well done David you weren’t overlooked despite wearing shorts whilst reporting outside the dail during our hot summer

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 10:50 PM

    Ah sure im sure she will do well as a government media propegandist

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    Oct 3rd 2013, 7:10 PM

    RTEs pic makes it look like the Bar lost another one…

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