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NAMA: Developers’ guarantees only dropped in exchange for commercial agreement

After Michael Noonan says NAMA occasionally lets developers off their guarantees, the agency says it only does so when it can expect a better payoff.

NAMA chairman Frank Daly and CEO Brendan McDonagh: NAMA says it considers releasing developers from personal guarantees on a case-by-case basis, but only when it replaces the guarantee with a better arrangement.
NAMA chairman Frank Daly and CEO Brendan McDonagh: NAMA says it considers releasing developers from personal guarantees on a case-by-case basis, but only when it replaces the guarantee with a better arrangement.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

THE NATIONAL ASSET Management Agency has insisted it only allows developers to be released from personal guarantees after it has gotten “all possible value” from them – and then only when it can replace the guarantee with a commercial deal.

A NAMA spokesman confirmed to TheJournal.ie this afternoon that the agency did consider allowing developers to escape their personal guarantees, it only ever did so “on a case by case basis”.

“The Agency has repeatedly stated that it does not engage in debt forgiveness and that remains the position. The Agency pursues all personal guarantees to the greatest extent feasible,” the spokesman said.

The comments came after Michael Noonan told the Dáil that NAMA had a policy of considering releasing developers from their personal guarantees two years after the value of their assets had been realised.

Personal guarantees were commonly used by developers as collateral for their companies’ loans from larger banks, with the prevailing logic being that the individual developer would agree to repay the money personally if their companies turned out to be unable to do so.

In a response to a parliamentary question carried on the NAMAwinelake blog, Noonan said NAMA had not paid banks for the personal guarantees attached to the loans it bought from them, because it “did not consider that such guarantees had any residual value in the vast majority of cases”.

Commercial agreement

Noonan further added that the agency would consider revisiting this policy in light of the new personal insolvency legislation currently being prepared by justice minister Alan Shatter.

This afternoon, however, the NAMA spokesperson elaborated to say that debtors were only released from these guarantees whenever a more profitable replacement was put in place.

“A debtor will only be released from a personal guarantee in return for a commercial agreement that will generate a better return for the taxpayer than would have been available from the personal guarantee,” the spokesman said, adding:

In addition, the Agency insists that no such arrangements can be implemented until a minimum period of two years has elapsed since all the debtor’s assets have been realised and the debtor has fully cooperated with NAMA.

Both Noonan and the NAMA spokesman declined to indicate the number of cases in which personal guarantees had been released.

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Comments (12 Comments)

  • One policy for developers, and one for the rest of us total suckers.

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  • Declined to comment?? Is this a democracy, or what? NAMA’s like the Seanad – only for ‘developers’. A dumping ground for failures or top-sycophants. It’s wrapped up in a ball of secrecy – nobody really asks why. Off the back of the bank guarantee, missing or shredded files, and the saving of Anglo there should be a independent public inquiry as this stinks to the heavens.

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  • This story stinks!

    Can someone explain to me how any ‘commercial deal’ can be more profitable to the state/NAMA than a personal guarantee? Does a personal guarantee not mean that NAMA would have a claim on all a developer’s future earnings anyway, regardless of any other agreements being in place or not?

    Also, if NAMA said at the time it was placing no value no developers’ personal guarantees, does this not suggest they never had any intention of chasing them for their personal property – except maybe for a few sacrificial lambs for PR purposes?

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    • mr x 22/06/12 #

      i’ll explain it to you in very simple terms which nobody here seems to get, the personal guarentees arent worth the paper they are written on. why? because the developers are already bust, in many cases the cost of going to court to enforce them would exceed the assets recovered.
      this is the reason that nama didnt pay the banks for them in the first place they knew they were worthless.
      and if you try to get an infinite assignment over someones future income they will simply make money in a relative’s or a company name.
      also the debtor can simply “move” to england and declare bankruptcy a la shane filan from westlife and be debt free in a year.
      however if a debtor is playing ball with nama reversing dodgy transfers etc and handing over all assets then nama will not enforce the pg’s or make that person bankrupt which is a costly exercise with no real return for the state.
      going to court to enforce pg’s and making people bankrupt only benefits two sectors of irish society – the legal profession and accounting firms.

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    • Thanks mr x – that explains some of it, but I don’t see how someone should be able to make money in a company name without having to declare it either as profit or directors’ fees, which they would have to hand over to NAMA. Also if they’re making money in a relative’s name that relative still has to account for the money i.e. either keep it themselves or give it to the developer as a gift, which is also a form of income NAMA would have a claim on.

      All the developers should have been made bankrupt right at the start anyway, which under bankruptcy law would have prevented them from making any dodgy transfers in the first place – the only reason they were able to do that was that NAMA decided not to have them declared bankrupt and even to pay them massive sums for their ‘expertise’ in continuing to run their bankrupt businesses.

      My point is that if NAMA and the revenue i.e. the state were serious about pursuing these people for future income they could do so by watching them like hawks – but off course they’re not.

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  • Why the surprise? The golden circle hasn’t gone away you know. Still the same faces turning up at various party fund raisers.

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  • One rule for developers and their friendss

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  • ”Noonan further added that the agency would consider revisiting this policy in light of the new personal insolvency legislation currently being prepared by justice minister Alan Shatter”.

    Is this proof enough for you all, that the new personal insolvency legislation is only being brought in for ”the well heeled” eg developers and senior civil servants who had an ill timed property punt??
    Remember, a lot of Judges,Senior civil servants, TD’s etc can’t become bankrupts or apply for U.K bankruptcy for that matter.

    The reality is, the government don’t give a damn about the working poor getting crucified by the banks and the current prehistoric 12 year bankruptcy legislation.

    ”FG and Labour”
    ”Ireland’s Liquidators”
    ”Working hard on behalf of faceless bankers”

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  • Can it really get any worse than this? How much longer will the taxpayers have to endure these double standards? Quickie bankruptcies in the UK, loan write downs, releases from personal guarantees, generous living allowances, and all for what? To make the burden bigger on the rest of the taxpayers and small business owners? The average person in mortgage difficulties, is he or she being released from personal guarantees? Is the average ratepayer released from personal guarantees? Any government ministers willing to resign over this? Fat chance.

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    • Adam we the people must give these criminals the sack in the next election and lets hope that enough people see what these polititions are really about for themselves and bankers and their buddies ,plus nobody going to jail for the banking fiasco

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  • NAMA was the worst idea ever I laughed at developer of it going to court for 6 pieces of silver from treasury. We need a one year bankruptcy for all move on for all not stuck in past mistakes

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