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‘He’s worth it’ – Dukes on IBRC chief’s €500,000+ salary

Mike Aynsley, the chief executive of the Irish Banking Resolution Corporation, was criticised by members of an Oireachtas committee yesterday for his salary.

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THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE of the Irish Banking Resolution Corporation has had his salary defended by his colleague, IBRC chairman Alan Dukes.

It emerged yesterday at the Oireachtas committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, that Mike Aynsley has a base salary of €500,000, an allowance of €38,000 and a pension of €125,000. He was asked by Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty if thought it was appropriate “at a time when the country is bust that the State would pay out that type of money?”.

Yesterday, Dukes said that the IBRC need to be sure they have people who are capable of doing the kind of job they need to do, and they have to pay the market rate. Today, speaking to Newstalk he said that Aynsley was recruited at a salary of €500,000 which was the level approved at the time three years ago.

When asked is Aynsley worth it, he said: “In fact yes, and that was the kind of money we had to pay at that time to attract in a person who could do the job.”

Today, the CEO of Bank of Ireland, Richie Boucher, was questioned by the same Oireachtas committee and was also asked about his salary, which is in excess of €600,000 a year. He said that his remuneration is put to the shareholders of the bank who approved the amount that he was to be paid.

Dukes also said that while there had been talk that the IBRC could take tracker mortgages off other banks, these discussions haven’t come to any conclusion. “It’s a difficult enough process to imagine,” he told Newstalk.

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Comments (71 Comments)

  • €9,589 a week!!!! Fine for some! High pay to attract competent people. Assuming they must have been paying €9.58 a week to the last shower working in the banks during the boom years! Why they are still entitled to large pensions is beyond reason.

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    • Vincent the man is dealing with billions of our money ! Of course he is worth it if he does a good job. Wake up to reality , man. If this guy is good , and there is no reason to think otherwise , he is worth every penny.

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    • No body is worth that amount of money . Yes he is handling or managing billions of our money , but so were the last crowd and they lost it all.
      Pay the man by all means what he is worth , but 500,000 is excessive .

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    • Rory, by that sentiment, those seen to be mis-managing billions of people’s money should be proportionally accountable. By this, I mean those seen to be mis-managing the large-scale finances should be sanctioned, and severely. As we have seen, that is not the case in Ireland. No proportional accountability (arguably, very little accountability at all), so why proportional compensation?

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    • why cant he be paid on “payments by results scheme” that way the more he gets back to the taxpayers( who have bailed out these dead ducks that where once banks) the more he get paid.
      payment by results NOT as a right should be the order of the day, and with such a fine salary why cant he pay for his own pension like every worker because at the end of the day no matter what fine name his job description has he is just another worker

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    • I am with James and while we are at it all bonuses should be paid in shares in the firm you work for and you cannot sell for ten years that way they will be less reckless with OUR money

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    • I wonder how many consultants he has hired to assist him at our expense lets find out what the process was in hiring him and what is Dukes doing in there more cosy jobs for the boys

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  • I’ll reserve judgement on his worth until I see a job spec.

    Mr Dukes, can we please see the job spec that was advertised for this appointment? I’d be interested to see what the role of each board member is.

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    • Ronan
      It is doubtful if you are entitled to a copy of the Job Spec as you didn’t apply for the position which has been filled for some years.
      You could on the other hand try the Freedom Of Information route but unfortunately there is a fee to be paid………..in advance!
      I am wondering however what the document could do for you other than satisfy a prurient interest while giving you some token idea of entitlement.
      The Constitution you see dear boy allows the State to get on with the job at hand without having to check in with you at every hands turn. But you knew that anyway Ronan didn’t you?

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  • There’s a financial war on in this country. The real wealth generators are being leeched by parasites. These guys should have been laid waste to in 2008. The state and IBRC with the rest of the insiders are taking the piss. Our only hope is another Lehman event like Greece leaving or Santander going bust. Then we press the reset button and get these parasites off our backs.

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    • Oh absolutely. What the world needs right now is for another company like Lehman Brothers to go bust or indeed an entire country to. Actually why stop there? What we really need is the entire financial system and world economy to collapse. Then we can enact real change and finally go back to living in huts, hunting and gathering … just like the good ol’ days!

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    • @Richard, worked for Iceland. Their financial collapse has dramatically improved their democratic process.

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    • @ Richard
      I absolutely agree with you . Scrap the lot and start all over again.

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    • MrKnow 01/11/12 #

      @Sean, i agree with 100%, Its just sad to see so many people constantly disagreeing with opinions like yours and standing up for people like the Quinn’s and fitzpatricks in this country. But many people don’t know what its like to have nothing, go hungry and not able to heat your home etc, they take everything for granted. Reality is Europe isn’t working, its f#%ked. With every effort failing and with people from country after country starting to question and riot against there governments, i can’t see Europe taking more hits, collapse is on the way for the union, the Chinese and yanks know it, the world knows it.

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    • Merkle knows it too and the Germans are after our low corporation tax .

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    • I see my comment is being taken seriously, despite putting in a little joke about regressing to living in huts again.

      For clarification: I was being sarcastic.

      Not sure how to take the fact that the above needed to be said to be honest.

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    • Richard I was being sarcastic too by agreeing with your sarcasm.
      We really should default and start all over again . At least then we
      will be working for ourselves . Anyway you made me laugh .

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    • Does that mean I’ve been out sarcastic’d, Eileen?

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    • Does it really matter Richard ?

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  • High wages dont reflect ability. We saw all that before. The pay these guys are getting is scandalous including Dukes.

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    • The system is rotten and is their to be abused that’s how business is done and the people who advocate it are ruining society.You will always find in all industries that the best man for the job has an interest in the profession to progress it and is not just soely in it for the money which these too leeches are doing.Your dead right John.

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    • John
      Don’t apply if Dukes steps down. I guarantee you won’t be interviewed. Something to do with your qualifications or lack of them I believe.

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  • Why the Germans and French are allowing this!

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  • AYNSLEY WAS PAID 866,000 EURO FOR ONE YEAR AT ANGLO.Some of this was considered travelling expenses. Wonder did he move from another planet. It appears like he did.

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  • L’oreal should sign him up.

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  • No insolvent business could afford salaries like this. Dukes is another who is under qualified to do his job. His pension and allowances are horrendous yet he got promoted in this new role. Dukes and this guy are really qualified at screwing the system and then wanting praise for doing it.

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  • LEECHES.

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  • SnappyJ 01/11/12 #

    Saying he’s ‘worth it’ is private sector talk. If he wants to earn that amount – let some company pay him that. If our government wanted real change, we have a lot of unemployed and/or emigrating graduates who could be paid a decent salary & who would come in with fresh ideas. No sign of them being ‘worth it’

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  • what job? turn off the lights?

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  • Wait until we see the true extent of the losses when this shambolic bank finally winds up. I suspect all valuations are based on very best case scenario, I wonder are we being played again by a banks management?

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  • Nydon 01/11/12 #

    If we don’t pay the going rate we won’t get people capable of doing the job.
    Q1 Who sets “the going rate” ?
    Q2 When have we tried to hire someone who is not a member of the CEGRU ( Chief execs going rate union) and suffered a catastrophic failure to deliver as severe as what has just happened with fully paid-up CEGRU members in place?
    Q3. Why is it only at the top that these price fixing cartels are tolerated and accepted as a necessary evil?
    Q3. Why do people not equate these exorbitant pay scales, in an industry with no real competition, to paying public service employees too much? We don’t have a choice not to pay more to cover the added costs across the whole industry do we?

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    • The country is bust yet we have great ‘going rates’ for politicians, state broadcasters, bankers, consultants, local Auth.managers etc.
      That’s a serious sense of entitlement problem that never seems to be tackled right there.
      Will the budget address any of it? Will it f**k!

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  • What exactly does this guy do for €500,000? He accepts money handed to him from politicians and civil servants extorted from tax payers to put into the AngloIrish carcass. How hard can it be?
    Is Dukes telling us that someone on €100,000 a year just would not be able to do this?

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  • What exactly does this man do for his €500,000 per annum?

    The bank is the carcass of Anglo-Irish Bank and was empty and closed (although it is refilling with OUR money again).

    All he has to do is accept the money, extorted from citizens through false taxes and future debt promised repayments, overseen by politicians and civil servants.

    Sorry to all the anti-negativity brigade, but how in God’s name can you see a positive in any of this?

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  • Red Ed 02/11/12 #

    I passed maths in the leaving any chance of a job? I would gladly work for 5% of of Alan Dukes wages. Are you telling me that 20 people like me for the same money cannot do the same job better?

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  • he deserve s that salary look at the job he’s done mortgage arrears sorted. variable mortgages sorted. a couple wanting to buy a 200 thousand euro house with 60 thousand euro saved will be welcomed and given a mortgage and allowed to live there life happy in the notion that this country is on the way up ……..oh wait what’s that you say mortgage arrears are not sorted what about variable? no sorry and that couple? told not to be wasting the banks time sure there broke we cant loan to you we have expenses who s going to pay our chief executive his 600,000 salary. ok ill leave it. where you going ? into work im a maintence electrician in a high volume factory .So john head’s to work line 1 break’s down stopping production john cant fix it then line 6 stalls, again he is unable to fix it john is sacked.

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  • Fine Gael hangs out Ireland to dry.

    Following close study of the Irish Government’s austerity proposals the Eurogroup expects to further discuss the Irish adjustment programme at its next regular meeting on 12 November on the basis of the relevant programme documentation.

    Basically, FG is openly allowing Anglo Irish Bank CEO to earn huge salaries…..even though he knows the Fine Gael leader has staked his political reputation on the Troika and FinMins by continuing to pay €1 billion to bondholders today. This is what Taoiseach Kenny said earlier in 2012:

    “we have not looked for a write-down”.

    But without that write-down, the Taoiseach, Ireland would be forced into savage cuts and into complete economic collapse.

    Well, the election mandate isn’t valid. More measures are being demanded. So Enda Kenny is left dangling over a sheer drop somewhere near the top of the Matterhorn.

    It is really difficult in all this not to reach the conclusion that Berlin-am-Brussels intends quite simply to reduce Ireland to the status of a socio-political basket case….it’s easier thereafter May 31st to neuter its sovereignty, and impose upon it economic demands that will leave the country little more than a slave satellite.

    Having said that, there is absolutely no reason why the Irish Government has to go along with any of this . Ireland has several other options – from America to the IMF to bilateral loans – and the EU itself knows only too well that, the last time a German delegation was in Ireland, Noonan capitulated to their demands without any mention of the promissory note.

    Berlin-am-Brussels is bluffing. Gerry Adams seems the only leader capable of grasping this. Why can’t the others?

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  • Reminds me of Fianna Fail’s “a lot done more to do” mantra.

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  • pearch1 02/11/12 #

    Dukes would have to say that. If he didn’t he would be undermining his own position!
    I’m sick of hearing this stuff “if you pay peanuts you get monkeys”, so we pay the crown jewels and we get incompetence or crookery! These guys have just got away with this for so long it is time to explode the myth about paying top dollar for basic competence. Once other countries and companies stop fuelling this greed these people will have to accept realistic salaries!

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  • It’s time the charlatans were exposed for just what they are – con men – pure and simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Dressing up in expensive suits is simply a more expensive con.

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  • How much is Dukes getting?

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  • His annual allowance is enough to put another Garda on the beat for the year or keep a number of country stations open!!! I know what I’d prefere……,

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  • It’s easy to say it’s paying over the odds but himself and Dukes were saying yesterday that they may be able to conclude Nama earlier than previously thought and several billion Euro cheaper…if that’s true, and if that is down to the CEO. It’s probably worth it.

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  • I stand corrected but was he not a big wig with Bank of Ireland during the time all this mess was created, it was so called experts that got us in this mess in the first place,

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  • What profit will Liberty make on Quinn Insurance?

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  • Not according to all these socialists below.

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  • I don’t care who you are or what job you do. there is no man on this earth worth more than €1000,00 a week that’s €52,000 a year and I am being generous, that’s enough to survive nicely on and plenty for the holiday and enough to keep the car going as well.
    the reason for these high salaries being paid is for the same reason judges in Irish court houses wear wigs and that is to make a class distinction, between them and us. by the way those wigs has nothing to do with the Irish sytem of law but judges get an allowance to buy them. these wigs were used as an intimidation tactic used in a gone by era by the British judiciary when they ruled Ireland through sheer intimidation and fear.
    unless these highly paid extortionists need a special food to change the colour of their shit I say let the mother F**Kers eat cake like the rest of us.

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  • I’m paid to do my job very well. But I don’t get the market rate.
    21 years in the same trade. And my wages are doing nothing but being reduced.
    Why ?
    The influx of non nationals. That’s why.
    There. Rant over.

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  • Pay peanuts you get monkeys. That’s the reality of the world we live in.

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    • Yeah, we can see that from the large salaries and bonuses those who were at the helm of Anglo, AIB & BoI before the crises got. Not to mention the large pensions they are still pulling in. We would have been better off with monkeys.

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    • Totally agree with you. The fat cats running the banks in the Celtic Tiger years were the most incompetent shower of idiots. They did not deserve the outrageous salaries the were earning as they recklessly ran the country into the ground. Saying that its clear that these banks are going nowhere for the foreseeable future and if they continue to exist they need to attract the best people available. These people won’t take these high end banking jobs if they can get paid better elsewhere and its a massive task clean up the banking mess.Would you not agree?

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    • €500,000 ain’t peanuts, I’d give my right arm to even earn half of that amount.

      It’s a disgrace!

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    • A Cawley

      Nice catchphrase, but complete bull.

      So we pay our politicians current & past top dollar, how they do, add on to that pension fund mgrs, bankers, planners the list goes on, how did these top of the pay scale guys do!

      Perhaps some thought before you repeat same old shit!!

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    • Plenty getting paid ludicrous salaries in this country paid for by the hard pressed tax payer and that are still F#*^%ing monkeys..
      Seriously what planet !!!! !!!!

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    • Adrian I agree that you do need to pay more for certain skills, abilities etc., but the fact is nobody, and I do mean nobody, is worth 500 grand a year, regardless of the work they do or the skills they have.

      We have a minimum wage in this country to protect the employee from exploitation; would we be crazy to argue that there should be a maximum wage to prevent this type of decadence?

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    • Adrian Cawley
      No I would not agree .

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    • By the way it is 839,000

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  • he looks a ringer for Joe Duffy….

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  • NedStark 01/11/12 #

    A poor premier league footballer earns more than this

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    • yes but the poor premier league footballer is NOT being paid by the tax payer is he, he also wont get a pension at the tax payers expense. the amount these people are being paid is obscene in todays financial situation, the government , on order from the troika, are set to cut the finances of the least well off in this country, the elderly, the infirm. the only ones who seem to escape these cut’s are the rich and super rich. the government is closing hospitals, garda stations, fire stations and civil defence stations, on shore and air sea rescue face cuts to their budgets, yet we pay these ‘executives’ salaries and pensions that would run a hospital ward. they are not concerned with the people of this country or how the people will suffer once these cuts are imposed, their only concern is how much more cash they can load onto the pay and pensions of themselves and their mates.

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