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Dublin house prices are being hit and hit again by the new mortgage rules

Looks like the plan is working.

NEW ANALYSIS OF the price paid for homes across the country show that property prices are plateauing, especially in Dublin, as the Central Bank lending rules bed in.

The CSO’s figures show that prices fell by 0.5% nationally in November and even quicker in Dublin where they dropped by 1.3%.

It’s the first time since February that national prices have fallen on a monthly basis.

It’s not quite a trend, however, with the three month period still recording a gain in sale prices of 2.5% from September to November.

Sale prices are also on average 6.5% higher than they were this time last year, but that’s the smallest the yearly increase figure there’s been in any month since January 2014.

To put that in context, in January of this year the yearly increase figure was at 15.5%.

In Dublin it’s more definitive with a 1.3% monthly drop in the price paid for homes between October and November.

On a yearly basis, property prices in Dublin are 3.3% higher than last year but that’s the smallest average increase seen in 30 months, since May 2013.

A look at the percentage change over the course of this 2015 shows that yearly price rises in Dublin have actually been slowing in every month since March.

PastedImage-33960 Percentage price changes in Dublin. (Figures for yearly changes highlighted) CSO.ie CSO.ie

Conall Mac Coille of financial advisors Davy says that the decline in Dublin is “not surprising”.

“Given that the Central Bank’s rules on high loan-to-value mortgages apply only to first-time buyers over €220,000, their impact has been felt most sharply in the capital where affordability is most stretched,” he explains.

The recovery outside the capital began almost one year later, so that affordability is less stretched, and there is probably more room for catch-up.

House prices rising in Ireland Niall Carson Niall Carson

Outside of Dublin, house prices remained pretty steady, recording a small increase of 0.2%.

Compared to the peak in 2007, house prices are still significantly lower with properties 33.8% below what they were eight years ago.

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    Mute That New Guy
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:23 PM

    How about changing the headline to “Dublin house prices mercifully normalizing to a more affordable level”, or do you own an investment property you’re trying to flip?

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    Mute SickOfCorruption
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 4:50 PM

    Bang on.

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    Mute Darren Norris
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 4:55 PM

    you know they own daft.ie in here and that is why they show it as a panic and chaos when prices drop by .5% as if it is chaotic

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    Mute Inanimate Carbon Rod
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:34 PM

    Its the same over at the Indo- house prices are always ‘soaring’ even when the increase has been less than 1%

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    Mute Pat Gorman
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:51 PM

    I am a landlord of several properties but I don’t see why builders want sell houses at at 500% of the building cost.
    The retail trade in Britain was blown away by efficient Germans and Scandinavians who take a small profit on each unit and thereby ate into the profits of overpriced monopolists.
    The British retail trade is reeling backwards under the Germanic onslaught.
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    Please Aldi and Lidl and Ikea.
    Start building houses in Ireland.

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    Mute P.J. Nolan
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 4:32 PM

    There was a radio interview few months ago can’t remember guys name but he said get international firms to build maybe 1000 houses at a time on a contract with the state like the motorways were done. State sells enough to cover cost The rest social

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    Mute Neuville-Kepler62F
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:14 PM

    Location, Location Location …Land , Land Land, The state can compulsorily purchase land to widen a road but not for homes! .. like Holland and many other countries. Until this is sorted then the Irish, their kids and grandchildren will continue to be abused by financial predators for generations.

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    Mute William Grogan
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:27 PM

    NK. Are you sure. I find that hard to believe.

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    Mute P.J. Nolan
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:41 PM

    NAMA

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    Mute gkrell
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 6:24 PM

    Ireland will never have affordable homes as long as we have open borders and the government has a policy of giving citizenships to the entire world in order to constantly increase the population. The government likes high house prices. They like that most of your income goes towards inflating the price of property while your other debts are passed on.

    They like to contstantly increase the population because it is the only way they know to keep the ponzi scheme economy going.

    If the economy was not a ponzi scheme and each generation did not have to be bigger than the last to pay of the last generation’s debts then a declining or stable population would seen as beneficial. We would have more resources to share, larger homes at cheaper prices but the government’s policy is to get people to pay grossly inflated house prices and increase the population so the next generation pays of your other debts. This of course is not sustainable. Ponzi schemes are illegal for a very good reason. They inevitably collapse.

    What we need is an economy where over the course of the average person’s life, they earn enough to completely support themselves including, healthcare and retirement and house prices are dramatically reduced to compensate. They are way above their brick and mortar value.

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    Mute Robespierre
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 7:18 PM

    We need 1m net migrants to fund the pension gap in 25 yrs time. You’re clearly a moron if you think immigration is a problem. It is the only way we can hope we do not end up totally impoverished.

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    Mute gkrell
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 7:44 PM

    Then you need more immigrants to fund their pension. It’s a ponzi scheme. How about we just have a sustainable economy where people’s earnings cover their costs and prices adjust to compensate.

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    Mute Neuville-Kepler62F
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 9:39 PM

    @WilliamG: In Ireland the Local Government (Planning and Development) Act 1963 helped to make building land scarce and expensive in a country that has the lowest population density in the European Union. Little surprise which Political Parties supported this …

    In the early 1970s an official Irish report (called the Kenny Report) recommended that rezoned Irish land should be capped at 25% above the agricultural value. This was not implemented – no surprise which Political Parties made sure this was well and truly “buried” ….

    Irish, their kids and grandchildren will continue to be abused by financial predators as long as they continue to leave their brains at home when they go to vote!

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    Mute William Grogan
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 11:34 PM

    NK. You didn’t point out where a compulsory PO couldn’t be obtained for housing. The other maters were probably unconstitutional.

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    Mute Paul
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:10 PM

    Now all the Central Bank need to do is not bow to pressure to reverse the rules. 20% up front is fair and its because of the lack such rules we got in this mess.

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    Mute Valthebear
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:30 PM

    To put things into perspective…An English commentator recently wrote about his property experience. He bought a flat in central London for 9000 pounds in the mid seventies when he was earning about 7000 pounds a year. Same flat now worth between 700/800 thousand and the guy doing the same job as the writer at that time earns 25000 pounds pa now. The younger generation in Ireland and UK have been shafted by the political establishment to protect their own asses. Come the election I will be asking every ff/fg/lab canvasser about theiir shameful part in pricing young people out of the housing market and decent accommodation. How on earth can anyone on average wages or even higher buy a house now, especially in our cities? Another disaster lurks around the corner and we need to wake up l.

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    Mute the phantom
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 3:45 PM

    Were interest rates something like 20% back then? Are we really comparing like with like?

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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:06 PM

    I could not disagree with you more Valthebear, you say the younger generation has been shafted by the political establishment, this is not the case in fact EVERY generation have been shafted by them

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    Mute William Grogan
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:29 PM

    A quick simple investigation by some firm should be able to tell us what’s broken because something is.

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    Mute Grumpeee Oldman
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:11 PM

    So that’s good news..yeah?

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    Mute Darren Norris
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 4:57 PM

    Not for the firm who owns daft and the journal.

    Prices are not going down and down or being hit and hit as they say. they are up 7% this year which is an insane rise. Bad research as usual and very biased reporting

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 6:07 PM

    The firm that owns daft make the same money if the property is 50k or 5 mill.

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    Mute Darren Norris
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 6:13 PM

    ads clicks hyped activity gives them cash so it helps to have a market jumping in extremes in terms of IT and journal click stories etc

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 9:30 PM

    Maybe the journal, but not Daft.

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    Mute Darren Norris
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    Dec 24th 2015, 12:07 PM

    Both are owned by the same company

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    Mute Kieran OKeeffe
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 3:45 PM

    Now if the central bank could tackle the mortgage rates..over 2% higher than the average eurozone…

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    Mute Paid_Shill
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 9:44 PM

    Well – the costs to banks of mortgages are lower in Europe. In particular, when people stop paying their mortgage – they are rapidly evicted. In ireland it takes years. This cost (of keeping people in houses they can’t afford), is spread among the other customers of the bank. Choose which you prefer – people in their homes, or cheaper mortgages.

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    Mute ULTRON
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 3:00 PM

    Good. Enough with this overpriced nonsense on a little island west of Europe.

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    Mute Len Brennan
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 4:32 PM

    If a house costs many multiples of your yearly income you are in for a lifetime of debt, and all the domestic disharmony that comes with it.. Over quarter of a million for a mediocre semi-d almost anywhere in Dublin. Irelands Ponzi scheme based economy is alive and well.

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    Mute Mick Hannigan
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:12 PM

    That will change, prices in Dublin will start going up again,

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    Mute twooggy
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:16 PM

    They won’t if no one can afford them!

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    Mute Nora Fennell
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:50 PM

    The end of the year has seen banks hit their exceptions budgets & in some cases ask buyers not to draw down on their mortgage until the New Year. The new exceptions budget will be available in Jan so prices are likely to go up again

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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:51 PM

    Never heard that before Nora, interesting to see if your right.
    Always heard that just before Christmas was a good time to buy a house, a seller would like to be able to sit down to Christmas with a deal done and would settle for a smaller price.
    Nothing much will happen until the spring.

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 6:09 PM

    That’s not right Nora, it’s actually the opposite. They lent outside the rules heavily in the start of 2015 and arse scrambling to draw down before 2016 to balance the books.

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    Mute Nora Fennell
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 7:24 PM

    http://m.rte.ie/news/business/2015/1106/740159-kbc-mortgages/ and BOI had spent their exceptions budget by October too

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 9:33 PM

    That’s just KBC, they were late. The other banks shot their load early in the year and were putting big pressure to close sales to balance out the 15%

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    Mute @mdmak33
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 2:39 PM

    Still over expensive. Have to get back to costs before Bertie’s calamity boom.

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    Mute SickOfCorruption
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 4:49 PM

    This is great news!…. Why does every journalists in this country insist on writing “oh no, property prices are slowing”, headlines?? Muppets

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    Mute Emachine
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 7:36 PM

    Why does this story read like its bad news? Finally a hint of stability in the market.

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 7:50 PM

    Homes, whether mortgagedor rented, are excessively expensive relative to real after tax net incomes.

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 7:57 PM

    Whether mortgaged or rented, too expensive.

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    Mute Neuville-Kepler62F
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 5:16 PM

    Mortar, invented in 1784 by J. Aspdin: sand, cement and water … No Platinum in it!

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Dec 23rd 2015, 7:49 PM

    Residential property prices in Ireland are determined by supply not matching demand, site costs, (development land is a speculative market), free market speculative pressures and over supply of credit to some applicants but not to others.

    Residential property values are a function of housing as a speculative commodity.

    The market value of housing relative to real incomes has increased over time and excessively so.

    One of the odd features of the Irish property market is that residential values are generally not a function of achievable rent multiples. In other countries the rent per square metres can be easily established and then the rent is capitalised.

    The banks are delighted with the current position. They can now push ahead in 2016 with repossessions of buy to let’s and owner occupied homes.

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