I do feel sorry for you if you can’t get a job. But would you work for a company that has such an horrific history? Do a little research. I believe one should look not think. Then you get facts not opinions. Facts are truths – opinions, well they are opinions.

Some people worked for the Nazis. Did you know that’s how this company came to be so wealthy? Probably not.

Umm you got me misjudged friend. But no offense taken

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does your logic mean we should all stop driving volkswagon because of their past history with nazism. Do you have any idea what you are actually talking about. Nearly one hundred people gonna lose their jobs and the best you come up with is some spoof website and a half ass argument about Gsk becoming rich off the Nazi’s over 75 years ago, (Gsk only merged in the last few years). If you want to wind someone up, don’t do it when people’s livelihoods are at stake.

I don’t know you but your ignorance precedes you. I say good riddance to the GSK killer company. GSK was still killing people. I don’t think VW are harming others in the name of help. I do feel for those who lost their job. I do and I hope they get a better one they can be proud of and their children can be proud of.

Don’t you mean Avandia? Balances your blood sugar by killing you!!

Is that you Jim Corr?

Seriously? You don’t know about Avandia?
GSK have had to pay out a shed load of money for suppressing evidence that this drug increased the risk of fatal coronary events, which it did, 83,000 in the US alone.. Which is why it’s no longer licensed for use in the EU..
And Psychopharmaceuticals are quite dangerous, try reading the listed side effects!!

But yeah, make some smart arse comment about Jim Corr.. I guess BBCs panorama are taking their lead from him too are they?

SM. As usual your comments are one sided and distorted. You have a financial interest in attacking pharmaceutical companies. Maybe you might tell the readers what it is? That drug is still available in the US. Why didn’t you mention that?

Are you talking about me? I’m unaware of any financial interests, please enlighten me with your assumptive defamatory statements..
I said it was removed from sale in the EU, a verifiable fact, that does not imply the whole world, I don’t know why it’s still on sale in the US – the same country that never banned Vioxx either, and look at all the deaths that caused, and Bextra while we are at it.

What’s your agenda William? I know you are fond of the ad hominem attacks, you’re aware that’s against the comments policy rules right?

Nope…

SM, from previous posts I have seen that you are a supporter of sCAM and like all believers in magic you have to constantly attack scientific based medicine. The large Pharma companies bring enormous relief to those suffering from various ailments and diseases and have contributed to a very large increase, not just in life expectancy but the quality of life in old age. That drug and others like it allow Diabetics to life a near normal life and carry risks because they are so powerful. If I remember correctly, and my memory maybe faulty on this, you “give” if that’s the right verb, Reflexology. Therefore you would have a vested interest in attacking medical companies. I would have far more confidence in the US FDA than European regulators. In the US sCAM artists regularly get jailed and fined millions of dollars whereas in Europe they have carte blanche to scam the gullible.

I have nothing to do with whether people take medicines or not, I do not offer any advice on people’s medications as they were prescribed by their doctor and that is beyond my job description.

May I point out verifiable facts on an Internet forum? Just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t change it. You like to follow the widely discredited Stephen Barratt of quack watch fame, perhaps your cognitive bias has gotten the better of you but please – ditch the ad hominems..

SM, now your true colours are coming out. Now the Jim Corr nonsense starts.

Not alone do I like the truth but as someone who completely follows the scientific method I insist on the truth ALWAYS. Doctor Stephen Barratt MD, to give him his title, is not alone not discredited in the slightest but I bet you you can’t find any errors on his excellent quackwatch.com website. Of course you have to attack him (and mainstream medicine), he posts vast amounts of information that helps people spot bogus, magical and useless treatments and sCAMs, such as Reflexology, Homeopathy and Acupuncture.

What is your “job description”? Do you make money from sCAMing people?

What? The guy was ruled in a court of law of being a non credible witness. He was struck off the register and has no claim to his MD as he never actually got his title, but hey.. Attack me personally.

And for the record, you keep referring to an American model which is not how things work over here.
For a start – the word “alternative” is not permitted. And seeing as my work is based solely upon relaxation and relieving muscular tension the question of drugs is never discussed.
This is one of the reasons I use a pseudonym here.
I read the works of Richard Smith, John Ionnadis, and Ben Goldacre. As I said above the information on the drug Avandia, made by GSK was covered in an episode of BBCs panorama. GSK were found guilty of fraud – they betrayed the scientific method.. But you seem to want to assume the role of apologist for them. That’s your business. Like I said above, your unfounded vendetta against me personally changes nothing of the facts.
If you take issue with those facts may I suggest you take it up with someone who can do something about it.. I’m just someone who reads about it like you.

SM, “the guy” is a retired doctor. After retiring he let his licence lapse. That in no way whatsoever makes him anything other than a qualified and experienced doctor who is simply retired. He was not “struck off the register” in any way other than anyone who retires is. Your implication is so distorted as to be more correctly termed a lie.

Your implication that the US based court, in an action taken by Barratt and others against a company selling fraudulent & bogus Homoeopathy treatment, found him not to be a creditable witness had nothing to do with his honesty or otherwise but related to his directorship of the NATIONAL COUNCIL AGAINST HEALTH FRAUD and therefore not unbiased. His organisation seeks to stop the gullible public being defrauded by con artists. A very honourable and public spirited group. Anyone who makes money from the public by selling them bogus health treatments, especially sick and vulnerable people, is beneath contempt. Do you agree?

William.
Was Avandia taken off the market due to safety concerns in the EU?
Were GSK found guilty of fraud and off label marketing with regards Avandia and other drugs?
Is it or is it not true that industry funded research is far more likely to show favourable results to their own product? Are the majority of studies carried out by the companies who stand to gain from the drugs profits?

Are Ben Goldacre, Richard Smith (formed editor in chief of the BMJ) and John Ionnadis lying in what they say about the level of fraud in clinical research? Are the Cochrane Collaboration just wasting their time reviewing all that data?

If not, then what the hell does what I do for a living have to do with it? You couldn’t disprove my point so you attacked me in an effort to discredit me. You say you follow the scientific method but you refuse to engage logically and rationally, you choose to ignore the evidence. That’s not science, that’s a vendetta with severe bias – just like Quack Barratt.

The doctors, nurses, and HIQA inspectors that I deal with on a daily basis show a lot more respect for me and what I do than you, and you don’t even know me, so take your presumptions and your slanderous bile and peddle it elsewhere.

Stephen Barrett is a defrocked psychologist who lost his license as incompetent. Not anyone’s role model by far. If you hold him up as yours I am not impressed.

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To be fair though, the people losing their jobs deserve consideration, they weren’t responsible for the drugs..

You sir are a moron. These 94 people are joe soaps who have bills/families to support. Take your issues up with the gsk brass not a load of now unemployed accountants and I.t. people

These drugs kill people. So do terrorists. Do you care for people who help them make bombs? I don’t think so.

These drugs kill people. So do terrorists. Do you care about the people who are their bombs? I don’t think so.

I think they have a choice. I would find out about who I was supporting and see if I liked it or not before deciding on who I work for.

At the end of the day it’s the 94 people that have lost their jobs we should feel sorry for , those people didnt prescribe those drugs to anyone , if you are so concerned about the damage that those drugs do why don’t you go and do something about it

‘Some people’ need to take their Zooloft…

And who DO you work for Ken? I would take a guess at the circus you fukking clown

I’m not kidding. Look at the facts of GSK’s history of mayhem – their word for therapy. They should be banished from this planet. It would do us all some good.

GSK originally became wealthy by helping the Nazis. Look at who fukked up the economic system for millions. They don’t have an economic system as they are dead. How do you like them apples?

Nicely put.

Who I work for are the people who are fighting to save your ass.

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