Ireland, a bust country receiving bailout, pays into the ESM. You could not make this stuff up.

So much for looking after the interests and welfare of the many over the few. If paying over money to unsecured rich bond holders and taxing those who cannot afford it over and over is democracy at work in Ireland then roll on communism. If I could I’d leave this country, surrender my passport and never return. Red thumb all you want

I ‘ve said it enough times give them a travel pass to go to the D?il and also cut their turning up to work allowance firstly then make them pay tax prsi and usc on their expenses and then let being on a committee be an honour not a privilege.that should get down the Oireacthas bill I think

This doesnt help either…
TAXPAYERS will fork out more than €500,000 for each TD and senator next year, new figures reveal.
The bill for Oireachtas members, including wages, travel expenses, assistance and general running costs of Leinster House, is estimated to be €115,590,000 in 2012.
That works out at €508,000 for the 166 deputies and 60 senators when the €717,000 cost of members of the European Parliament — who are paid via Leinster House — are excluded.
However, the overall Oireachtas cost is down from an estimated €127m for 2011.
Despite “austerity” being the watchword when it comes to tax rises and spending cuts, the travel expenses bill for TDs and senators is set to soar next year to €5,247,000 from €4,839,000 this year.
Other expenses and allowances for Oireachtas members will hit €7,765,000 in 2012.
The salary bill for TDs and senators alone comes in at nearly €20m for next year, while travel costs for members of the Oireachtas is set to top €5m in 2012.

Excise duty is one of the highest in Europe, it’s now counter productive. Same school of economics as VHI and CIE. He’ll still put up fuel and alcohol in the budget. Dope.

It’s be interesting to see how much cost year in and year out for the pensions of past and present politicians.
it must be a crazy amount considering b******ahern’s alone is up on ?100K yearly and coming directly from the state.

So the political parties and a majority of the voters chose yes to the fiscal treaty in order to get access to the ESM funding, and now we’re already down half a billion quid in what’s likely to be the first of many such payments.
Great job, Einsteins

I have a feeling there going to have a pop at another VAT increase. It has become a major “ole fateful” to revenue because its hard to get around not paying VAT. Motor tax and increases to the carbon tax so petrol and gas can be increased. Its scary to think we have at least 8 more main budgets and 6-7 mini budgets to go.

fingers being pointed to welfare, OAP, and the bottom half of society. Nothing about the billions gone on bondholders and overpaid at the top, bankers still getting massive payouts even tough they constantly mess up and cost billions to the taxpayer. And thumb me down all you want you hypocrites, at the end of the day this country is speeding towards a brick wall and if live in ballymun or foxrock, earn 10k or 100k we are all going to feel the impact when it does crash.

€1.3 billion in interest! Are they havin a giraffe?

Ya and who,ll be forking out for that, the children of Ireland, the sick, the elderly, the working. But it’s alrite so long as the government and their banking buddies get to walk around on half a million euro a year?

Why exactly are we being forced into austerity, yet ye,ve the cheek to tell us we need to tighten our belts, yer a fukin joke.

Half a million quid a year for what exactly?

If I got even half a that I’d be sorted for life!

http://www.change.org/petitions/supporting-the-irish-nation-step-down-from-government

Its time to do something about the lower class we seem to have in this country. You know the cradle to grave welfare recipients and their kids who perpetuate the cycle. We have how many non irish people working in jobs like McDonalds and in other similar jobs. Why not cap migration and get our own doing these jobs?
If theyve never paid tax then they shouldnt get any welfare. No allowances for the 3rd or subsequent child. Proper subsidised childcare so people can actually work when they have kids.
Appraisals in the public sector so people can actually be sacked, receive warnings or get their increments depending on their work record.
A new tax rate or two for those on 100k and up should help close the gap too. No more overseas aid while we are broke. A cut off point for welfare should be introduced too, no more migrants coming here getting our dole, no more welfare payments for kids not in the state, tighter immigration controls and try and get this country and its people back to some sort of sense of pride.
We are in the sh*t and people are sinking further and further into despair except for those who never contributed yet still get free housing and welfare payments. Its the working person and those who lost their jobs who suffers in this country.

Let’s face it guys. Ireland is run by a bloody useless, self serving, corrupt and greedy hierarchy. Filling their own pockets from the moment of their election. However These incompetent buffoons were put there by an electorate who would believe pigs could fly again and again. Unfortunately there’s no one else to vote for that has a clue. Talk away why don’t ya but it’s you and your families who’ll be taking it up the kyber for generations to come unless people stand together and say ENOUGH

So I guess it’s time again to turn the screw on the children, elderly and poor mouth of Ireland isn’t it Noonan me old mate.

is there anything to be said for another mass?

So ” if the trend continues” as you quote it will have significant impact in the upcoming Budget? More softening up of the hard pressed taxpayer before the event seems likely.

A civil war might be a solution 200 years ago but not the flavor of this century. Instead the Irish need to protest their views, get on the streets. If you sit back you accomplish nothing and just take what they give. Even if you do damage control its accomplished something. The government will be attacking the social welfare no doubt this year so the question is what can you do to prevent this or at least minimize the cuts.
Our family packed the bags and left the country as couldn’t bare the thought of living there for the next decade even though we didn’t want to leave. We read about Ireland every day and can’t believe what that government is getting away with.

Cut public sector pay to bring in line with private sector,cut half these middle mangers in most departments,cut waste and tell Germany and merkel to stop bullshi ng around give us a deal or not.if the country has to borrow every year things ain’t going to get any better

I ‘ve said it enough times give them a travel pass to go to the D?il and also cut their turning up to work allowance firstly then make them pay tax prsi and usc on their expenses and then let being on a ocommittee be an honour not a privilege.that should get down the Oireacthas bill I think

Is this all in the 5 year plan? I wonder how that’s coming along anyway!

Speaking of the rising debt and pretty much constant deficit (adjusted for once off measures for bank bond holder payments and bank repayments ofcservice fees the deficit is more or less where it was in 2009), the question is: where on the government books are the unfunded public sector pension liabilities? The answer is: nowhere, and that is the elephant in the room and the root of the next fiscal crisis.

This is bad news because it will only serve Kenny’s justification to pay the bondholders. It will also sustain the gravy train. Under-declaration of tax liabilities is often used as a strike against the Government in many other countries. If Ireland is to grow, it must stop paying bondholders.

I’m rereading FG’s extraordinary crap leaflets on the fiscal treaty, no mention in their ‘facts” section on having to hand over this money…consistent with the lies though – kudos.

Where has my comment gone?

What was the problem. Not the first time