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EU summit: Merkel rejects eurobonds as Britain rules out financial transaction tax

Conflicting ideas on how to generate growth in the debt-stricken eurozone.

Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande at this evening's EU summit.
Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande at this evening's EU summit.
Image: AP Photo/Yves Logghe

FRANCE AND GERMANY opened an EU summit today on a collision course over how to spur growth in the debt-stricken eurozone, as markets plunged and the euro hit a near two-year low.

“We have to act straight away for growth… otherwise there will still be doubt on the markets,” new French President Francois Hollande insisted amid deepening worries over Greece’s eurozone future and Spain’s troubled banks.

“We have no time to waste,” the freshly-elected Socialist leader stressed on arrival for his first EU summit after a cost-conscious train ride from Paris.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel faced mounting pressure to give ground on her hardline austerity doctrine as the European single currency fell to $1.2564 and London, Frankfurt and Paris stock exchanges each shed well over two per cent.

But she rejected a call by Hollande for eurobonds – jointly pooled eurozone debt – which the French leader considers a potential solution to the crisis.

“I believe that they are not a contribution to stimulating growth in the eurozone,” Merkel said, adding that such instruments were expressly forbidden by the EU’s own treaties.

Berlin fears eurobonds would only result in German taxpayers permanently underwriting the public finances of weaker eurozone economies.

Financial Transaction Tax

Non-euro Britain was also shaping as a force to be reckoned with, blocking other core ideas put forward by European Union officials and backed by Hollande – including a tax on financial transactions.

London vehemently rejects the tax, home as it is to three quarters of Europe’s financial services industry.

Opening the dinner talks, EU president Herman Van Rompuy underlined the need to find “a strong will to compromise” with the risk of knock-on effects from a Greek eurozone exit exercising markets.

After Germany’s central bank said the picture in Athens ahead of June 17 elections was “highly alarming,” leaders were expected to warn Greek voters that Athens must honour a €237 billion bailout deal agreed in March.

“I don’t believe we can afford to allow this issue to be endlessly fudged or put off,” said British Prime Minister David Cameron, notably urging the ECB to get behind the single currency.

Treasury officials from the other 16 eurozone member states were told this week to “reflect” on what an exit would mean for their economies in preparation for eventual “coordination concerning what each must do on a European level,” a diplomat from one eurozone country told AFP.

The Greek finance ministry in Athens “categorically” denied this was the case.

Spain

Contingency planning that diplomats called “commonsense” stems from arguably even greater worries about Spain and Italy, after a report by Fitch Rating agency showed foreign investors had fled Spanish and Italian debt in huge numbers.

Spain’s 10-year borrowing rates have soared to above 6.0 per cent in recent weeks while German borrowing costs hit a record low of 1.390 per cent today.

“These differences may prevent us from meeting our deficit targets,” Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy said before boarding the train with Hollande after talks in Paris.

Rajoy said Spain did not require the support of European rescue funds, saying there were “faster instruments” — an apparent allusion to the European Central Bank which has previously bought government bonds in the secondary markets in times of stress.

Analysts see this as inevitable, with consultant Sony Kapoor warning: “Unless something is done to arrest the decline in Spain, it is headed towards needing a fully-fledged bailout.”

Wednesday’s talks were not intended to deliver concrete decisions, but were set to endorse a trial for EU “project bonds” to attract long-term private investment for Europe’s incomplete energy, transport and digital networks.

These would not be mutually guaranteed as eurobonds would be, but use 230 million euros from the EU budget this year and next, and hopefully unlock 4.5 billion euros of total public and private-sector investment.

Other ideas on the table include a 10-billion-euro boost to European Investment Bank (EIB) capital designed to release what the Commission said would be 180 billion of new private investment.

Leaders will also look at a call to unlock EU “structural funds” that the Commission says are worth some 82 billion euros, much of which is stuck in national coffers.

- (c) AFP, 2012

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  • What kind of “union” are we living in when one arrogant little German is sitting back as the self appointed queen, worrying about domestic politics whilst the rest of Europe burns! She does realise that her inaction as the self appointed queen is causing untold hardship to millions of Europeans? Yet she doesn’t give a monkeys, she’ll be more decisive once we are all so broke that we can’t afford the new VW, that’s for sure! And all the while, while our crowd of idiots should be standing shoulder to shoulder with the other partners in trouble, here we are, proposing writing the Merkel pact into our constitution and mocking the Greeks about Feta! We’re a disgrace of a nation!

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    • Are you criticising her for putting her country first ahead of the greater EU area?

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    • In this instance James the notion by her and the German people that they are putting their country first is misplaced! Without the Euro Germany is screwed because of the value of the DM. Without a functioning Eurozone Germany is screwed because its banks are so leveraged with peripheral debt and how a mis firing eurozone would affect its exports. So this notion by Germany and Merkel that somehow they will be insulated from the pain is delusional and they need to wake up to that! Meanwhile all the bluffers of Europe are happy to let this clown go on a solo run, with the misplaced intention that she is protecting Deutschland when she is doing anything but!

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    • Must be something in the genes over there..

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    • Economic warfare

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    • Extremely well said

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    • If you were the “self-appointed” king of Europe, would you give a rat’s arse about Germany? Yes, she’s mismanaged the crisis and yes, she’s digging herself further down rather than climbing out of the hole but, firstly, no-one else has tried to offer an alternative leadership/management at the European level and, secondly, the brutal and callous choices she has made were decided upon in order to stop Germany sliding into the mire, not as an attempt at imperialist domination. It’s not a war machine, it’s a sinking ship, and one that, in her opinion, doesn’t have enough lifeboats for everyone. This doesn’t justify her decisions in any way, but the consistent parallels to the Nazi regime don’t stand up to the reality of the situation.

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    • This has been going on longer than the last few years Germany started this problem, when the Euro was invented Germany made sure interest rates were kept low so they could pay off the redevelopment of East Germany as cheaply as possible and this resulted in an undervalued Euro thats great for their export driven economy .They are now raping the other Euro members to keep this going

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    • @ Jeff – I’d agree with you up to a point, except to say that it’d already gone severely pear-shaped for Germany. The days of “keeping it going” are gone. Merkel is in full panic mode as she reckoned that if Germany bailed out other countries ( albeit indirectly ), this would stabilise the German economy by swopping out the risky debt. Nothing more solid than sovereign debt, right? The prevailing emotion is not anger toward Greece for not following orders, it’s utter fear that, if this money doesn’t come back on a timely fashion, the German economy will hit the wall. Things aren’t good here. The idea that Germany is trying for economic domination is a fiction, but it’s probably a better one for Germany than the truth, so it’s not in their interests to deny it. Germany’s on the same helter skelter as Italy, it’s just not as far down the slide just yet.

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    • If you don’t want to deal with austerity, take your power back from those people whom you gave your power away to in the first place to implement it. Commit no further treason. If you can not do this, you have a split intention, and are therefore, suffering with schizoid personality disorder.

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    • @ Alex – you don’t make a lot of sense. Treason? Mentally ill? I’d be offensive of it wasn’t strange. Some points:
      1) I am an Irish citizen who has been living in Germany for the last 7 years. This means I do not have a right to vote here. I had no part in bringing the measures into effect, and I have no means of revoking those measures.
      2) I have built up a job for myself, I pay tax and I can pay my own way. Of I returned to Ireland I would probably have no choice but to sign on and be a financial burden on the state. I choose to stay here. I’d say my choice benefits Ireland, so rather than treasonous, it’s patriotic.

      I’d take an educated guess by your buzzwords that you will be voting No. The pity about you is that you discredit and downgrade the No campaign with your bigotry disguised as politics.

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    • @Diarmaid if the situation was reversed would you expect the Irish taxpayer to pay the debts of reckless borrowers in the name of European solidarity.

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    • Another myth, it’s not free money, remember? It’s a loan with interest, so they’re profiting!

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  • Correct. And I think something like 85% of the money Germany received under the marchall plan was a grant i.e. required no repayment. Very short memorys indeed.

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    • Fagan's 24/05/12 #

      they also had the 2 biggest defaults of any country in the last 100 years.

      Ungrateful sots who have forgotten their history. They spin the lie that it was hyperinflation that brought Hitler along. No it was not, the mark was stable at that stage, it was the severe austerity inspired by the crash in 1929that brought him along. Austerity destroyed Weimar.

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  • The Greeks want to stay in the euro but will not vote for politicians who will do what is required for this.

    The Germans want to stay in the euro but will not vote for politicians who will do what is required for this.

    What hope for the euro?

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  • Why would Germany want to change anything when these are the perfect conditions for them to thrive.. record low bonds to lend to the crumbling peripheral member states at a big profit.
    Everybody agrees austerity has not worked for 5 years, But the rest of Europe being weakened by it makes stronger Germany very attractive to worried people to stash their money and invest in and lets not forget their massive exports are also benefiting hugely from the weaker states keeping the euro down. Its in Germany’s best interest to keep us down but not out!
    The austerity is going perfectly according to plan for Germany..

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    • Don’t put your money in Germany. Don’t know where you’re getting you’re info, but bank bail-outs already happened here five years ago and rumours are growth that they’ll be nationalising bans here in about six months. Germany is in no way immune to what’s happening in the Eurozone, life is getting harder and harder here by the month. There are two main reasons that Germany’s not as badly off as other Eurozone countries: 1) Low wages compared to their Eurozone countries ( no minimum wage, average wage in Berlin at €1000 per month before tax, 2) extremely high taxes and charges, e.g. Mandatory private health insurance non-nationals ( just under € 300 if you’re under thirty, as high as € 500 past forty years old ), Pension tax of € 350 per month, non-means tested, for freelancers, plus standard income tax. I work a 55-60 hour week, I bring in about € 2200 a month gross, and putting together tax, charges, rent and utilities I’ve about €300- left in my account. And I’m doing quite well for myself here. That’s the reality of life in Germany, the majority of people are scraping by, not so much unemployment because it’s extremely hard to qualify, and a huge amount of working poor. Put that beside spirally living costs, a residential housing shortage, a ridiculously bloated civil service and an office property bubble about to burst in the city where I’m based… any of this sound familiar?

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    • @John, that’s a good insight. Looking like Europe is in bigger trouble than we thought. Manderin lessons it is so.

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  • mel 23/05/12 #

    Don’t see Enda in those pictures,maybe he’s looking for someone to pat his head !!!

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  • Toureag 23/05/12 #

    Merkel’s presence will not solve the problem in the EC till she’s gone……

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  • mel 23/05/12 #

    Stability my arse!!

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  • If we hadn’t voted for crooks and idiots to run our country 3 times in a row; we may not have had a property boom and we could very well have a strong economy now. Would we then want to dig deep into our own pockets to help subsidise others living way beyond their means? would we be in favour of Eurobonds?

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    • Unfortunitly Paul thats where your wrong because as i remember each election, each party were bidding to outspend one another, more doll. more for the pensioners more for the farmers more for the civil servants more for the builders and banks, And that was every party!!!
      What a joke, and whats even funnier is that is what the people wanted!
      If some TD even suggested cutting public spending 8 or 9 years ago they would have been mobbed!

      People have short memories

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    • Fagan's 24/05/12 #

      We probably would not, we would take the high moral ground and curse the Greeks and others. Solidarity and working with others is not what we do. Bit too much of the I’m the Landlord now and screw the rest driven in to us.

      Germany and rest will not do like wise. It’s why people say that the Euro is not an optimal currency zone.

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  • You know… really… I don’t get how an Ireland based site gets so much Greek support. Ireland isn’t Greece. Not by a long shot. Ireland’s only problem is w/ over zealous bankers. That’s it. They incurred a crazy debt they couldn’t pay. But if you look at the medium and long term prospects for Ireland they are amazing. (I’m in the US). American companies are looking hard at Ireland b/c they have such a brilliant workforce. They really are amazing. On my last visit I couldn’t believe how sharp the average 20-30somethings are. Everyone is well educated. I’m sure they exist, but I didn’t find a dim bulb in the crowd. Ireland invested in it’s people in the 80′s and it is really paying off in terms of an amazing workforce. If you want a good medium to long term investment Ireland is a buy imho. Per capita I’ve never been to a country with greater potential. Any comparisons between the Greek situation and Ireland only show me who is talking out of their a**. Ireland will be a strong player in the EU mark my words.

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    • I’ll even go one step further…. when I actually went to Shannon and Dublin and started meeting random people… it was a little intimidating. It was like being in silicon valley. So many start-ups. So many great ideas. So many people who were really going to do what they were talking about. Dublin is a really inspiring place to be. I can’t say enough good things about it and I wish the US political big wigs would learn a thing or two from them… but it looks like the US is going to get dumber before it gets smarter. Sad face. :(

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    • Jason we are all fully aware of the difference between ourselves and Greece but I for one take the word union somewhat more seriously than other people. We all know Greeces taxation system is a joke, but you can’t blame the ordinary citizen for that. Politicians set taxes! We are also aware of our competitive advantages etc etc but there are people starving in Greece at the moment while our finance minister makes jokes about feta, while Greek people are compared to crackheads and they generally get hammered by the world. But the main reason I would like to show my support for them is because they are well and truly screwed and certainly do not need the boot stuck in now, as easy as that would be to do!

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    • Wow! You’re Irish! That does surprise me. …but you look like a young guy. Your country made big sacrifices and did a lot of work to make your generation into what they are today… at no immediate benefit to Ireland. I don’t see Greece doing that. Ireland planned for the future… invested in the future (ie the kids). That’s the kind of investment that pays dividends for decades. I’m not at all trying to tell you how it is in your country (forgive my American arrogance). I’m just saying from where I’m sitting… granted that’s really far away… I don’t see any analog… any common ground between some of the EU countries at all. If you guys can make it work my hat’s off to you and hopefully watching it my country will learn a thing or two one way or the other… but damn you have your work cut out for you if you want a union. Your feeling of solidarity towards the Greek are a prerequisite for the attempt at all. I don’t think we could/would pull that off. It’s a divergence of fundamental principals in my humble view.

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  • So what ‘ideas’ did Kenny bring to the dinner? Disappointed not to see at least some comment from our leader or is he just avoiding all debates?

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  • alan 23/05/12 #

    btw, in the picture above, what is Hollande pointing at?

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  • this just shows that our “leaders” have yet again failed in their duty to “lead” and tell the truth:
    (1) Greece will be forced out of the Euro – no matter who they elect on june 17th
    (2) the resulting chaos means that Ireland & Portugal will need a second bailout
    (3) if Ireland doesn’t have access to the ESM (ie. a NO vote next week) it will also be forced to leave the Euro (I expect lots of thumbs down for that)
    (4) the euro will drop sharply in value leading to massive drops in the real value of any savings we may have (this is already happening).

    While I was a supporter of the European project as a whole (and we have all had some major benefits from it), I am now becoming more and more Eurosceptic. They are an embarassing shower of public representatives – and it’s our fault for putting them there !

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    • 1) Agreed
      2) Disagree. Ireland has removed 74 billion euro in exposure to the euro crisis and the so-called “toxic” investments. In a worst case scenario Ireland banks are only undercapitalized to the tune of 2-10 billion right now. That’s a far cry from just a few years ago. Portugal is a different story. They have made few reforms in relative terms and their banks are still highly exposed to ‘bad debt’. I don’t know enough to have an opinion on what Portugal will do. Capital flight is the biggest risk.
      3) Again, disagree for the above reason. In meeting fiscal goals the eurozone will likely see any additional required “bailout” money as a pittance for Ireland. I don’t think they will even need it.
      4) Agree. That’s going to be a global condition I suspect.

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    • Jason, it makes me so happy to see someone talking in positive terms about Ireland and its future.
      I only wish there were more people like you here.
      Any slight bit of good news is straight away talked down in this country by the nay sayers. tv, radio, newspapers and just people in general.
      I no longer go to eat in the canteen with my work mates or very rareyl socialize with them not because i cant afford it but because they only ever talk about how bad things are and it will only get worse.
      It really is a depressing country to live in at the moment because of these people.
      They cannot see we are a great country with great prospects ahead, i only wish everyone else could see this but no, they are happy to stay blind.
      Thanks for your encouraging words here.

      Ray

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  • Dear Journal, There is something inherently wrong when people can compare a nation which was the birthplace of modern civilisation to crack heads and various snide remarks can be made about a nation in deep turmoil, even by our own finance minister, through NO FAULT of the general population there, yet posts Too Trueleft and I put up reminding people of Germanys history in begging the world for cash is taken down because it may cause offence in reminding people of a few facts? just saying!

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    • Well said Diarmuid, but don’t mention Germany not being the be all and end all !! They are our new bosses!!

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    • I think you might have highlighted part of the problem there. “No fault of the general population”… that’s the kind of line that gets votes but does it make any sense? In the same breath you say birthplace of civilization, which is a bold statement but for the sake of argument let’s say the ‘birth of democracy’. Should not the sentiment of the people to take full responsibility for what their government does? The truth is that this is not a new problem. The Greek people have known about it for a very long time. Nobody objects to having a corrupt government as long as that government is sending them a check, so they keep voting for corrupt individuals who run their country into the ground. Every government is to varying degrees problematic and inept. I’m not saying there’s a good guy in this story. I’m just saying if you want to solve a personal problem you’ll make better progress if you look to yourself instead of point fingers at the world.

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    • Yeah!where is my other comment as well? I don’t use swear words or insult people.not too often anyway. yet often my posts are either removed or simply not displayed.what’s the story?

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    • I’m with you on that one. Censorship used in that way is for controlling a message not for having a conversation.

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    • This happens a lot, messages vanishing, even when the comments don’t break the rules and regulations. Can’t work out if it’s technical ( too much traffic on the site ), or delibrate editing to direct the threads ( a la Big Brother – Tv show not Orwell ). The latter sounds good but I reckon it’s the former, to be honest. I do think they’re actively promoting “heated debate” to increase traffic though..

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    • Jason that electorate you speak of sounds like one I know quite well, people in glass houses……

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    • Guys, the message was posted successfully, refreshed then replied to by another user and subsequently replied to by myself. It looks like it was removed, as possibly was Diarmaids. As a former forum moderator I may not agree with the removal but respect the decision of the moderator.

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    • Just to add – I’ve got email notifications of the missing comments, which include the comments themselves, but I never saw them posted on the site itself. Oddness. It’d be nice to get some clarification from an “official” thejournal.ie person. Their site, their prerogative, but I’d far rather know than not.

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    • On this topic of removed comments, I made one in response to the Greek apologist troll that I felt after posting it was getting too personal. I didn’t want to detract from what I’ve said and think about this Grexit thing, so I asked it be removed. Wanted to keep the convo civil and not take troll bait.

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    • Lads, of course I respect their decision and as above poster said, it’s their site, only they have the right to decide, I was merely pointing out that I was surprised my comment would have been seen as offensive as compared to a crack head analogy, that’s all. I even finished my post re it with “just saying”.

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  • Hmmm it would appear being a teacher is no longer a prerequisite for a career as a clown.

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  • I’ve been giving this some thought and I’ve come to the conclusion that Greece is like a crack head. He doesn’t have a job, every 20 he gets goes to his pipe, and when he runs out of crack he starts trying to rob his friends. This isn’t about supporting a neighbor, this is about a crack head blackmailing his friends and his friends just trying to get him clean and into a job. …but the crack head doesn’t want a job. He just wants more crack.

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  • How dare Germany raise objections to funding the over zealous public spending of the rest of the union like… It’s almost like… that time I like… totally maxed out my parents visa on hoodies and jeans in Dundrum mall and they like totally…took it off me… So I threw a very grown tantrum and then went on the Internet to call them names…

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  • “Angela Merkel… her hardline austerity doctrine”

    Whoa…! Editorialise much?!

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  • Eoin Faz 23/05/12 #

    We joined the currency on the basis that everyone was telling the truth about leverage and liquidity. The government is taking the approach that if we stick to the rules we’ll be safest.

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  • I see that the attitude is always to blame your misfortune on others!!!

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  • F**k off Merkel
    80 million Germans v 500 million Europeans.
    This game is up.
    German banks are the reason we are all in shit.
    The bill will find its way home one way or the other.
    Watch as germanys export economy collapses and then the rules will change.

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