Adam, It is not parked until 2025 – you are believing the government spin! The money will have to be repaid to bank of ireland NEXT YEAR. It is only put off for a year

Trinity college professor Karl Whelan was on Vincent brown and explained the whole thing. he said dont believe a word the politicians are telling you – I never did anyway!

That’s correct Patrick and the Irish taxpayer gets treated to a €80-90 million bill for same.

Yes, sean , Magician Noonan has made the nasty E3 billion disappear right in the middle of the referendum campaign! But it will magically reappear next year, after he has got his YES vote!

Now you see it, now you dont economics, is permormed at the dept of finance and we are the gullible audience clapping the wonderful noonan and his wonderful feats

That E80 billion you mention, could nearly cover the household charge

Mr Draghi, these are Seanie’s debts – they are not mine

The Irish will do anything for a pat on the head. It’s the old inferiority complex again. We need to grow up.

The euro elite – their budget went UP last year – the recession hasnt reached them yet

Exactly clueless!!!

Shure wasn’t Brian Lenihan a great patriot to be able to get us carrying this debt, while at the same time changing the laws so that the bankrupts who had more than 5mn in Anglo were able to take it out, rather than having it frozen like the rest of us if we were in that position. What a great fupping man.

no there not clueless just very corrupt all these banks are all bust and they shove it over on to the middle class and the poor this is the way a democracy works ,if anglo had been let go bust it would have taken the political elite judges barristers with it they would all have had to resign

No one expects us to pay up, everyone knows a deal will be announced 7-5 days before the referendum to give the gov a boost.

Someone obviously forget to tell this man about the “deal” that he “agreed” to with Enda

Maybe he was out of the room having a cup of tea when the “deal” was done

That the Fiscal treaty? You know the one which only needs 12 signatures and which they don’t need us to sign. If you’re going to build up some conspiracy theory perhaps you’d explain why they need us to sign it because I can’t see any reason.

Well Gary according to the ECB and EU it is very important we sign up as it will send a ‘signal’ to the markets that we are serious. Doesn’t seemed to have helped Spain today when they went to the markets. But sure never mind the guy from the ECB must know best.

Kerry. Sure I imagine it will send the right signals to the markets. The point I’m making though is if we send the wrong signals to the markets by voting No we’re the ones who get hurt not the EU generally. I’m trying to see a reasons why they would need us to vote yes as the little conspiracy above suggests.

We will get hurt if we vote no? How do Gary? And I thought the EU was a union not a two tiered system!!!!
It’s a NO from me wether they need it or not. And.,., why give us a vote at all if they only need 12 sigs?

Even though only the 12 signatories are needed, it’s privately feared Ireland may not ratify it and we don’t it would also send a signal that the whole of Europe isn’t moving in step. Germany et al privately very much want us to sign up for this to give the appearence of a united front so that it doesn’t come under threat from the markets itself.

What do you expect Draghi to say? The question is what the best course for Ireland is. I don’t care what these guys have to say, they have a vested interest in their position.

The probable next French PM has said he is going to re-negotiate while the Conservative PM has already ignored the EU’s targets and set ones for next year that ignore this treaty as well.

Economists and politicians across the globe decried this treaty as a political stunt related to German and French electoral politics and how it offered nothing in the way of resolving the financial crisis.

Every country in Europe (bar Finland) is going to have austerity imposed on it, while also expecting to export and grow its way out.

This treaty is an absolute disaster and threat to the economies of Europe.

@Tony Skillington. So it would be nice if we vote yes but there’s no real excitement if we don’t. So no reason to push us.
@Fagan’s. Let’s be clear about this, we will be having austerity whether we vote yes or no. Which economists says it’s a disaster? Start with the Irish ones as they’d have our interests nearer their hearts.

Draghi is reinforcing the double standard treatment that Ireland is being dealt by the EU/ECB. Namely, Irelands banks get into bother and the taxpayer is forced to bail them out. Europes banks get into bother and the ECB provides €1 trillion in liquidity to the banks.
Draghi has falsely claimed that the promissory notes has nothing to do with the ECB. The funding for the promissory notes was provided by Irelands central bank and it is the ECB that is insisting these funds are repaid.
Attached article offers 6 reasons why Ireland should vote No the fiscal compact referendum.
http://www.realitytimes.org/?p=1598

“Very few doubts it will Exceed?” Exceed what? The Irish people’s patience for the austerity merry-go-round?

The Irish Times is reporting him as having said “succeed” which would make a lot more sense. I’ll bet he did a Trapattoni and confused “exceed” and “succeed”.

You been turned down for a credit card or something?

I know plenty of decent, hard working and low paid bank staff who do not go to work to put up with this sort of ill judged abuse from people like you.

Simon they are debt pushers. They work for a financial system that is a a criminal fraud. There is no such thing as a nice drug pusher and its the same for banking. And no never been turned down for credit. If I had a choice I would make fiat money illegal as it is the sole reason for the ills of our world.

I near you knocking Frank, but the Cosa Nostra still rule..

Think you would have to overthrow the government before drafting a new constitution.

Ah well, it’s nice to dream, thanks Kerry.

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