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Credit union loans down 10 per cent

The Irish League of Credit Unions said the decline is due to a “severe lack of demand and continued restrictions on lending”.

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THE IRISH LEAGUE of Credit Unions (ILCU) has said credit unions provided some €1.1 billion in loans to their members between October 2011 and June 2012.

The ILCU said the Credit Union loan book was down 9.9 per cent in that period in the Republic and 1.5 per cent in Northern Ireland.

This decline was due to a “severe lack of demand and continued restrictions on lending”, the ILCU said.

Savings, on the otherhand, remained stable at €11.5 billion with Credit Union surpluses in June this year at €227 million in the Republic, up from €93 million in June 2011.

Provisions for bad and doubtful debts in Credit Unions have increased and now stand at €723 million in the Republic.

Despite this, membership has increased by 35,000, bringing the total number of members to 3.11 million members across 32 counties.

While fewer Credit Unions are showing a deficit compared to this time last year, The ILCU said “economic challenges including increased unemployment and shrinking household incomes continue to have a negative impact on operations and these factors are reflected through loan arrears and general inertia in lending”.

Jimmy Johnstone, President of the ILCU said it should be kept in mind that the personal insolvency legislation will have an impact on Credit Unions.

“As Ireland emerges from its current difficulties we will be there to support communities and people, like we have been for five decades.”, he said. “Just like when we faced those challenges in the past, our movement is strong, our core principles and aims remain and we are owned by the communities which we serve.”

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Comments (24 Comments)

  • Any statistics on members shares? Have they increased/decreased, stayed static?

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    • Dec, the article says Savings are stable., which I imagine means static. Savings are made up of Deposits + Shares. But mainly shares.

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    • Dec Rowe 03/10/12 #

      These guys would have forecasts and targets on shares so stable could mean that shares/savings are increasing at the rate of expectation… but no actual statistics on it, shares are what the credit unions are based on… Just looking for some clarity on it!

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  • Credit Unions deserve huge credit for the work they do in Ireland.
    Manned mostly by volunteers they make credit available to people the banks often won’t touch & if you get into difficulty are very understanding & bend over backwards to accommodate.
    If only the same could be said of other financial institutions!!

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    • M O Sé 03/10/12 #

      No they dont.

      The credit unions got a 1,000,000,000 euro taxpayer bailout in 2011.

      http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/credit-unions-to-get-1bn-bailout-169950.html

      Many of these unions were involved in massive irresponsible lending. But sure, instead of those bankrupt unions going bust, they are saved by guess who – the workin’ man.

      Once again no lessons are learned and the same practices will continue once peoples backs are turned.

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    • While it is true that those that sit on the various committees are voluntary and are not paid for their services (with the exceptions of treasurers who for some reason are paid an honorarium) it is worth stating that for most credit unions the day to day work is done by paid staff be they tellers or the managers etc.

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    • M O Se
      The article you quote speaks about individual credit unions not the movement as a whole which is what I was talking about.

      With regards to payment some of the smaller credit unions are 100% voluntary while all the others have a strong voluntary component.

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    • not in my local CU. far from fecking volunteers. when they issued their set of yearly accounts, i had to sit down. from what we could gather, there are about 20 -25 working there and each were getting between 600-1000euro a week. the erm “maintance of computers” was about 40,000euro a year!!!!!!!!!! our local one is more corrupt then the banks. and from asking around, ours also seems to have the highest interest rate, and for the last 3 yrs no bonuses were paid to anyone who had savings

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    • Lou
      It’s time you were kicking up a stink.
      Your credit union belongs to you, take no crap & if you have grievances that are not being listened to go to the governing body.
      If the last few years have taught us anything it is not to take crap anymore!!!

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    • John Fee 03/10/12 #

      @ M O Se As far as I know nowhere near the full amount of that bailout hasn’t been paid and what has been paid is to specific CUs not the entire CU movement. So you should be more careful about tarring every CU with that brush.
      @Lou Walsh How did you work that out? On average? It must be because you wouldn’t have access to specific wage details as that is confidential information. I can tell you from experience that most CU staff are not making €600 to €1000 less than that in fact. It is only the top end management that is getting a disproportionate salary. The fact that you don’t even know the exact number of staff says a lot about your calculations. As for the amount of money spent on computer maintenance, I don’t know the specifics of what services they offer but that is about the average cost of maintenance for varied services for a medium to large CU.

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  • Tommy C 03/10/12 #

    ‘severe lack of demand’??? Seriously? Must make a phone call so!

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  • You mean the Imelda May add didn’t work??? #NotRockin

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  • @M O SÈ – let me educate you a little before you get to high on the “working man” mentality. Credit unions are set up and run by the “working man” no government or investors have any say or involvement in credit unions expect with rules that govern lending. They are run by the people in the area for the people in that area. If the working man pays for a credit union bailout it’s not to assure bonuses or pensions for board members.

    I’ve worked for my credit union for 7 years now and never once needed a bail out.

    And another thing that bail out that the government offered for credit unions was REFUSED by credit unions as they want nothing to do with them.

    Instead all credit unions in Ireland put their hands in their pockets and pooled money into one giant emergency fund for for any time a credit union may need it. IT HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED ONCE.

    Don’t believe everything the government tells you. Approach your local credit union they will tell you out straight the position they are in financially as they have an obligation to the share holders (which are all the members) to inform them of such information.

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  • Of course loans are down . You cannot take out a loan if you have no means to pay it back . As someone who is unemployed , though applying for jobs almost on a daily basis, I certainly have no money to pay back any loan . I am lucky to have €3 in my purse at the end of the week .

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  • @ damien. Yeah that was newbridge credit union. That special manager is a disgrace and no 1 person should earn that an hour. The credit union ran into difficulty through irresponsible lending such as business loans. A handful of the 400 credit unions in Ireland lens business loans which are to unstable due to failing businesses and such. The special manager was put in place by the regulator to make an example of them and to sort out their loan book. The credit union still operated as normal and still does now but the regulator was trying their hardest to get their foot in the door of credit unions and that gave them the perfect opportunity to do so.

    I’m not saying all credit unions are perfect and that why the SPS fund was set up as outlined in my previous comment. But newbridge weren’t given a chance to access this fund and correct their errors. Instead a special manager was appointed at that ridiculous charge which the members of the credit union have to foot the bill.

    Anything that happens in a credit union the member foots the bill not tax payers or bailouts. The surplus of a credit union that is normally used for dividends and interest rebates is used and then they see if there is enough left to give something back to the members but I doubt there was at €365 an hour!!

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  • This is not good news for credit unions as they are dependant on lending levels staying stable or growing slowly and performing lending (loans being paid back as agreed) to make the bulk of their income. If lending is falling then the opportunity to earn income is reduced and if lending is not performing then they are unable to earn income from the lending that they have.The financial year end in the sector is September and the time between that and AGM’s is stretching out every year which points to more and more issues to be dealt with in advance of the AGM’s

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    • Philip there is a certain credit union who this year had a special manager appointed by the high court at a fee of approx 375 euro an hour. he has been in the job at least 6 months now and in that time there has been no explaination offered to the members as to why. in your credit union experience could you please explain why this would happen, this has no bearing on your comment but i would welcome your opinion

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  • @ Lou Walsh with regards to wages I doubt highly that any staff are on €600 – €1000 a week. You would have to look at your annual report and see the wages paid and divide that by the number of paid staff employed to get an average. Some would earn more than other depending on length of service and stuff.

    And about the computer maintenance, it would cost roughly that per year. Sometimes more and sometimes less. You have to remember when you walk into the credit union you only see the teller staff there to serve you. Maybe only a handfull at computers. There could be 20-30 more computers in the back office.

    Credit unions are mainly fitted out with pcs from an outside company who charge for every computer they provide and also charge for the software they provide to run accounts. They also charge for maintenance and upgrades and technical support on a quarter basis.

    Another company will safe guard the computers with security and server security which backs up all member information and maintenance which is another cost quarterly to every credit union.

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  • @ M O S è

    Here you go – http://www.cuda.ie/cuda/documents/CUDApressreleasereCommissioninterimreport141011.pdf

    http://www.creditunion.ie/communications/news/2010/title,1002,en.php

    The first article is from CUDA which it the credit union development association stating at the very top no one needs a bailout but they accept the governments decision to think that they did.

    The second if from the ILCU The Irish league of credit unions fully explaining the credit unions SPS fund which I was talking about in which credit unions pay into a fund to support one another. And credit unions have used the fund I don’t dispute that but they used there own money and not the “working mans”.

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  • I’ve stopped dealing with my credit union, they are crap. I’m Lucky enough to get Loans from my Local BOI branch.

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  • natasha 03/10/12 #

    big swing how care.s

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