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Ireland and the UK are planning closer economic cooperation
A visa waiver programme, allowing visitors to both countries to travel freely between both islands, is among the recommendations of a major report published today.
THE UK AND Ireland plan greater economic cooperation in the wake of a major report on the two countries’ current economic relationship which has been published today.
The Joint British-Irish Economic Study report has been published by both governments and identifies a number of areas where they can collaborate more closely including a visa waiver programme, allowing visitors to travel more freely between the two islands.
Other areas identified for closer co-operation include the energy sector, with a recommendation that the two governments work on a programme for the trading of renewable energy.
Closer cooperation is also encouraged in the agri-food sector with greater emphasis on food chain security – to prevent a repeat of the horsemeat scandal – and to establish common standards around the main risk areas of biosecurity and food safety.
The two governments are also urged to share knowledge around the funding of infrastructure in the construction sector and undertake closer cooperation in the financial and professional services sector.
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The report, carried out by PA Consulting Group, has taken over six months to complete and examines in detail the depth of the relationship between the two countries.
A number of key findings include:
The UK remains Ireland’s largest export destination: 16 per cent of Ireland’s total industrial exports went to the UK in 2011
Similarly the UK is the largest recipient of Irish service exports with an 18.5 per cent share
UK jobs resulting from exports to Ireland in 2009 are estimated at 208,000
Jobs in Ireland resulting from exports to UK are estimated at 198,000, representing around 10 per cent of total Irish employment.
UK nationals represented over 2.5 per cent of total sector employment in Ireland in 2011
Similarly Irish nationals represented over 0.75 per cent of total sector employment in the UK
The stock of UK’s Foreign Direct Investment in Ireland in 2011 was €52.9 billion
Ireland’s stock in the UK was €50 billion.
Taoiseach Enda Kenny said the report will help identify further areas for cooperation.
His British counterpart David Cameron said: “I’m delighted this report has identified such a wide range of sectors in which Britain and Ireland can further strengthen economic collaboration to boost growth and help our countries succeed in the global race. ”
The British Irish Chamber of Commerce called for the recommendations in the report to be implemented and welcomed many of its recommendations include the proposed visa waiver programme.
“This will considerably increase the attractiveness of these Islands as both an investment destination and a tourist destination from important markets in Asia,” Steve Aiken, the chief executive of the British Irish Chamber, said.
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Tourists coming from most non-EU countries who want to visit both countries must apply for 2 separate visas – possibly a disincentive for some tourists to the UK to travel on to Ireland given the time it can take to get a visa.
It makes perfect sense from an Irish tourism industry point of view to make it as easy as possible for tourists to travel between the two islands. Technically speaking, the common travel area between Ireland and the UK only applies to Irish and British citizens,
Non-EU tourists probably don’t know that it’s hit or miss whether or not they get asked for ID say at Dublin Port so they’d assume they’d need a separate visa for Ireland (which legally speaking they do).
Cue UKIP-type replies about illegal immigration, which will happen whether or not we make it easier for wealthy non-EU tourists to come spend money in our economy.
For people outside the EU. They would have to get 2 visas to travel between the UK and Ireland. This way If they have a visa for one country it applies for both. There should just be an EU work/travel visa so people can travel around all countries within the EU.
The Visa waiver is not directed at EU citizens. Take, say, a businessman from Russia. Currently if he wishes to travel to both Ireland and the UK on business he requires 2 separate visas – one for Ireland and one for the UK (remember, neither Ireland nor the UK are Schengen members). What is proposed is that in future, this businessman will be able to travel around both countries on only one visa (he can obtain an Irish or British visa and use that in either country). Apart from the obvious advantages of removing duplication, excess fees, etc., Ireland has fewer embassies and consulates throughout the world than the UK. Allowing people enter Ireland on a British visa will only encourage more business to Ireland.
“Like i said abive, this is FGs chance to get Ireland back into the UK. They have never hidden that desire from the time of the creation of their party.”
David, it was FG that sold the 6 Northern counties off in return for a debt write down in 1925. It depends on the leader of FG at any given time. One will do the right thing, 10 would sell their mothers for a few shillings and a chance of meeting the Queen.
@DavidBarrett
Actually fyi, it was the Irish Volunteers who declared Ireland a Republic & if you reaaaaaaally want to play politics with it, Sinn Féin established the Irish Republic.
The debt to Empire/land deal done was related a border commission report completed at the time. The commission found large parts of the north and some of the republics land would change hands. So a deal was done.
Simon, i am quite sure that most children and quite a number of women have absolutely no interest in soccer.
Can you provide a link to back up the 99.5% claim you just made?
If Kenny and FG get their way, Ireland will be re-instigated as part of the UK. This is one of their key plans. Once they had Collins, its all FG have been working on since.
Ireland (as an Island) is better off having a totally independent Agricultural Food safety certification system. The Island of Britain is great as a back-stop for any animal diseases that might make their way over from Europe etc. If we are labelled with the same brush as the UK (think of Foot and Mouth outbreaks), the Ireland (the Island) loses a very clear advantage. Meanwhile the Island of Britain gets the advantage of selling possibly contaminated meat to the rest of the world, using the Irish certification process.
Like i said abive, this is FGs chance to get Ireland back into the UK. They have never hidden that desire from the time of the creation of their party. I think they are looking for peerages for themselves.
Personally I don’t see an issue with a united Ireland as an integral an equal part of the UK. It makes economic sense. Unity is strength. The only thing preventing it would be the emotional rhetoric and clichés about “oppression” “ruled by Brits” “fought for independence” and other stereotypes. The people’s of these islands share more in common than they do differences. The UK is a largely secular, multicultural, modern society – many people are surprised with the level of concocted resentment that simmers below the surface of the Irish national psyche. You only have to read comments on the Journal.
As much as the Irish want to get away from the British,they just cant manage to shake them off, the love/hate relationship continues, the economic ties seem to only confirm the reality that fate has decreed that we be dependent on one another, that we are destined to be the odd couple forever argueing and forever making up,they remind me of the story of the Taylor any Ansty of Gougane Barra the west Cork couple made famous by the English writer Eric Cross in the 1940s.
Get a life! Independence from what? Go back to your nationalist cave where it’s forever the 19th century. We live in a multi-national, inter-dependent world. There is no such thing as independence.
In 2012 China overtook the US and Germany to become the country that spends the most on international tourism. For a Chinese tourist to visit the UK and Ireland as part of a European trip they would have to be sadistic. 3 visas at 100 euro a pop, each taking a month to process with 3 days off work for the 3 different embassies to collect fingerprints. All that before finding out that a b&b in rural Wexford cost more than a b&b in central Venice.
Look at that sneering goon Kenny, getting ready to hand our once great island back to the Brits. He wants nothing more than a knighthood. All this austerity stuff is just a ruse to bring back the Tans.
And pray tell me JohnJoe who is currently running this country, none other than Angela Merkel, the IMF and this feckin troika whoever they are. The British in all fairness are now very good neighbours to have, and believe you more care a lot more about our little Island than an of the countries in Europe do.
Neither Britain nor Great Britain are legal entities. Any agreements made as a result of the meetings and the report will be concluded between the “Government of Ireland” and “Her Majesty’s Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”. The title of the article is correct.
The primary legal entities in that state are as follows: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; followed by the devolved entities of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Below that we have the separate legal entity of “England and Wales”. Below that we get into the smaller municipal and unitary authorities, though some regional bodies exist. (Great) Britain vanished as a legal entity when Ireland became part of the UK. Today it is only a geographic term used accurately to describe the largest island, but sometimes erroneously to describe the entire state.
Brian,
Perhaps you misunderstood my question;
I wasn’t seeking an explanation – understanding the nature of political juristication and structure is an area I understand very well, what I am keen to know is upon what do you base your view/opinion ?
To give it its correct name, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The “Great” in Great Britain does not refer to the level of its magnificence but to the measure of its relative geographical magnitude. It refers to the result of the union of the Kingdom of England (which included Wales) and the Kingdom of Scotland in 1707, that is; it is a greater rather than a lesser Britain and became “United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain.” A common mistake made by some is a belief that the United Kingdom was created by the Union of the Crowns in 1603 not the Treaty of Union in 1707. The Union of the Crowns was and is a historical and legal misnomer. The Crowns of the two countries were not united in 1603. The crowns, and the two countries, remained separate. All that happened was that the same head came for the first time to wear the separate crowns of two separate countries. What happened in 1707 was that Anne, Queen of Scotland, entered into a treaty with Anne, Queen of England, to merge the two countries into a single state in international law. Then and only then was there a United Kingdom. The state of Great Britain is also confused in many minds with that of England (and indeed was so used in the past) and also that of the United Kingdom; neither is synonymous. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland was formed by the inclusion of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Act of Union 1800; the Kingdom of Ireland having been created by Proclamation of Henry VIII and was never a sovereign entity; then in 1922 with the creation of the Irish Free State became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, formalised by the Royal and Parliamentary Titles Act in 1927. Whatever form of words we use it upsets somebody and lands us in the soup.
Actually, Hewitt, the term “Great” in Great Britain was used thousands of years ago when the Greeks referred to the two main islands in this archipelago as Megalo and Mikro Britannia. In other words, Ireland was originally termed Lesser Britain.
Very good point above. To visit the Schengen Area. the UK and Ireland, many nationalities not only the Chinese have to obtain 3 visas and that is an expensive and time consuming process, especially if you don’t live in a city with an Schengen, British and Irish Consulate. This of us with family members who have or had non EU passports can all remember the difficulties involved. For example many people are not aware that the UK and Ireland are not part of the Schengen Area so when they come to the Schengen Area on a Schengen Visa and want to travel to UK and Ireland, they then find out they can’t because two more visas are required.
Cooperation between Britain and Ireland is to be encouraged. Huge numbers of jobs in Ireland depend in it.
Well Fine Gael share common political interests like the Tories, it would be only natural both counties would share the same outlook!! I say the Blueshirts are lining up a Union re-Union!
Whatever happened to the proposed irish/american trade agreement that fine gael were harping on about before the election? (Lucinda on VinB springs to mind)
They could start by asking them to move the Irish gates in Heathrow to the international zone of the airport. Currently tourists with a visa for Ireland connecting through Heathrow are told they need a transit visa for the uk.
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