Have to say I rent on South Circular and the large house has separate units, all of which are in great shape and not overcrowded etc, all the tenants I share with are happy out. (maybe we were just lucky to get a good decent landlord)

North Circular in Dublin is depressing, all those beautiful houses turned into bedsits and left to rot.

Can’t think of anywhere else where a tree lined road full of old Georgian Houses near the city centre and with a massive park beside it wouldn’t be the most attractive place in the city to live

@ Niall. Stop talking such common sense there. Don’t you know our city lords don’t give a toss about the place. Look at the state of it and its obvious. Heaven forbid you might give them an idea for responsible regeneration.

@ Simon- all the tenants I’m sharing with are of varying nationalities in fact I am the only Irish native in the building.

I lived in Summerhill until ’11. When I moved in I had no choice being a student. My landlord took full advantage of this. I lasted nearly 2 years because it was an ok area, believe it or not. But never again. I think at one stage there was 9 ppl (immigrant family) in the top floor one bed flat. That included 2 children under 2 and the great grandmother.

Ya know Simon I was just letting people know that there are some out there who have been lucky, I don’t believe in condemning all even if the majority are not up to standard or near. My landlords a good guy and all the tenants here are happy it’s as simple as that. If you then feel it necessary to insult me and my education so be it.

@ Sophie. It’s not an insult its an observation. Of course most landlords are decent.

@ Sophie. It’s not an insult its an observation. Of course most landlords are decent. Tell Chandler and Ross I said hi by the way.

Will do! Hope you have a great day Simon :)

@Simon – it’s asinine, not ‘asenine’. And what crawled up yours?

Ha ha ha are you for real, enlighten me honey on the worldly wisdom you posess on other peoples options you muppet.

Sorry fake named hiding person. I spelt a word wrong and you nit pick then ask me what crawled up mine?

@ Marie (Millie Tant) Byrne. Go back to summerhill. Your use of the word muppet would suggest you spent too long living with the dregs of society to bother trying to argue with you.

#Simon – are we just saying what we see now? Yes, that’s correct. And yet you have framed this as a question. I can only assume you are implying the rising inflection at the end of the sentence that would make it ‘sound’ like a question, rather than bothering to actually ask one, like a parody of a teenager, or one of the Friends characters you seem to abhore. That’s some pretty cutting-edge pop culture referencing you’re coming up with, incidentally. In any case, each to their own, the only reason I would pick up on your comments is that you seem to confuse rudeness for clarity of thought, and abrasiveness for a decisive mind. A terrible trait.Speaks of poor calibre of mind.

Pardon?

Clearly you’re a landlord. Get off you high horse and face facts some people don’t have a choice and there are shitty landlords that take advantage.

I don’t think anybody disagrees with your point. I think the red thumbs are because you sound like a pompous ass

@simon

Tenant actually.

I can live with the dichotomy. Thanks though.

@ Jeremy. This made me laugh. Nice one.

Seriously.

Jason,

Georgian houses are mostly over 50 years old. 50 years ago, the building standards were different.

Jason, would recommend you go look up the legal definition of storage facility on the internet.

“Georgian houses are mostly over 50 years old”

Facepalm

The Georgian era ended in 19th century so they’re all over 50 years old!

The market determines the rent, which is defined by the mortgage repayment demanded by the Bank. If its too high dont pay it.

Mike – Attitude won’t get you anywhere. Landlords have to pay costs towards renting. If you have issues, discuss with your landlord instead and work it out. Nobody can do this but you. It’s called taking responsibility in your life.

As Jim pointed out – the market determines the rent [based on the cost base].

EXAMPLE:
If more regulations are introduced = higher cost base due to renovations required to comply with regulations

Jeremy you come across as a bit of a tool.

The market dictates the rent not the mortgage or renovation costs. Landlords will always try to get as much rent as the market will pay. If I’ve no mortgage I won’t rent it for nothing likewise if I have a massive mortgage the rent might only half pay it. If rents are too high it’s cause there are too many tenants willing to pay the high tents usually due to a shortage of units in the desirable areas.

Yeah I saw that as well. 15 bed houses up for sale. Most of them don’t have pictures up because they look like tenement flats from years ago, which is what these were headed for only for these regulations

Yes Brian, and now you will need to pay higher rents because of these regulations. More regulations increase the cost base and anyone knows this. On the other hand, less regulation lowers the cost of renting.

They call it a studio in the ad. That’s the only difference.

Studio sounds classy, exclusive. There’s a hierarchy. Park Bench< Doorway< Bedsit< Flat< Studio< Apartment< Penthouse.

I suppose if you’re happy where you are, just keep quiet about it. Your landlord is hardly going to report him/herself.

If you want well-maintained properties, you must be prepared to pay higher rent. Money doesn’t grow on trees, these things have to paid for, unfortunately.

In the main, adding bathrooms will reduce the number of units in each building. This plus the renovation costs will increase the rent significantly. Even if the tenant could afford it, they have to find somewhere to live in the interim. Not very fair considering this pretty much only affects the very poorest people in our cities.

It’s as I expected.

You must be rich the way you look down at the poor

Fred, in fairness they were give a 4 year grace period in which to make the changes.

I have been affected by similar laws introduced in the city that I live in in the uk. My rent has increased by £85 a month for a much smaller and inferior property. This has significantly reduced my standard of living.

I’m under no illusions that I’m one of the lucky ones.

Paul, I know the landlords were given 4 years grace, but that makes no difference to the people who want independence and can’t afford a 1 bed apartment. How is a retired person supposed to increase their income in four years? Let’s not forget that was 4 years the city councils or social services could have been preparing a transition plan for the tenants affected.
John, I don’t look down on the poor. I’m a tenant myself in a shared house. The fact is there will be a shortfall between the rent of the newly renovated properties and what many people who currently live in bedsits can afford to pay. How is that looking down on the poor? If I have offended anyone, I apologise.

More regulation translates into higher rent costs. The more a government regulates, the higher the prices. Regulation increases costs.

What about the young people? It’s not just about “OAP’s”.

I agree.

It would be naive to think that the cost of this, financially or otherwise, will not be passed on to tenants.

That’s called house sharing (renting just the bedroom and sharing communal areas, like the kitchen, sitting room& bathroom) this is completely different to a bedsit.

I assume that counts as a dorm room and not a ‘rental property’

I just want a slice of toast and a cup of tea :(

It probably depends on if your house came furnished or unfurnished. If it’s furnished, you should have an inventory.

No dryer needed if you have access to an area to dry your clothes outside.
Toaster and kettles are not a requirement for properties. However if they were initially supplied by the LL replacements should be provided. If they were left by last tenant the LL doesn’t have to replace them but had to tell you up front.

I don’t know why people are red thumbing a simple desire for a cup of tea and a slice of toast.

Barbarians!

You know they sell kettles and toasters in shops? Pop in to tesco or Argos and get one for a tenner.

Your place is furnished as a courtesy by your landlord as this is what the market demands in ireland. there is no obligation to provide anything. furnished means bed and seats to sit on. Most other EU countries (which have more stringent regulations) you get a completely empty place and you furnish it with everything and re-paint it before you leave.

What did you sign your lease for? Furnished with toaster and washing line? If not then its your responsibility.

Plus expected to fit your own kitchen in Germany plus the tenant (yes tenant) pays the agents up to 3.5 times the rent for letting it to them. So to move apartment for a 3 bed in Munich will cost you about 12k. Be careful what you wish for. And you have to completely have it professionally painted before you leave.

Access to laundry facilities is a washing machine if you’re renting a house because you can dry your clothes outside (not when raining obviously). Dryers have to be provided in apartments now. You just need a clothes horse to dry your clothes in the winter, don’t leave it in a cold conservatory though, great during the summer but not now. Landlord doesn’t have to supply toaster or kettle, only a cooker, fridge and a microwave (I think that was added recently). You can make toast on your grill after all and boil water in a pot. Just buy a kettle, they’re not expensive and then it’s yours…

Thank you all for the uselful replies.

In response to Brian, yes I did know they sell them in shops. Did you know that some people, like me, cannot afford them? Not even the 10euro ones, funny eh.

In respones to Brian, i actually just moved from German to Dublin and i know what you are saying is more a less a load of bull. Yes it would apply for the high end places, espcially in Munich, but that is not the rule of thumb for all place sin Germany. Cost of rent in Germany is five times cheaper then it is in Dublin.

Yes, regulations.are bad. It was too much regulations behind that whole banking thing.

> Two words – Nanny State

two more words: slum lord