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AIB seeks to pay new CEO salary above €500,000 threshold

Minister for Finance Michael Noonan has confirmed that the bank wants to pay a new CEO above the salary cap introduced by the last government.

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AIB RECENTLY contacted the Minister for Finance to request paying a salary above the €500,000 cap to a new chief executive for the bank.

Replying to a Dáil question from Fianna Fáil TD Michael McGrath, Noonan said the bank had submitted a “formal proposal” to him for a base salary in excess of the capped figure.

He said that a “compelling case would have to be made for the government to consider setting aside this cap, taking account of the recent decision on the pay ceilings for CEOs of semi-states and senior public sector posts.

Noonan will consider AIB’s request in the context of “the need for social solidarity to be shown by all individuals and sectors for the good of the nationa and its recovery from the present challenging circumstances”.

The minister said that he is keen that a new CEO can be appointed to the bank shortly as part of the government’s strategy to restructure the Irish banks. He also said he is “anxious that the situation whereby the executive chairman of AIB combines both positions of chairman and CEO is resolved”.

AIB’s executive chairman David Hodgkinson told the Irish Times in May that the bank would have to offer a “market-based compensation package” to appoint an external candidate as CEO and was looking into paying above the base salary cap.

The cap was introduced by the last government and critisiced by Central Bank governor Patrick Honohan, who told the Irish Independent two years ago that banks risked missing out on the best candidates for appointments as a result of the salary limit.

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Comments (72 Comments)

  • I thought AIB was fully nationalised? They have taken billions in emergency funding and have foisted a grave debt upon generations to come. Who do they think they are, asking this? If they have money to spare it should go towards easing the burden on all of us!
    Even a cap at 500K makes me sick. If they were to repay their debt to us and wing it on their own they could pay their CEO whatever they liked, but not while we are their crutch.
    What bothers me is why Noonan didn’t break his shite laughing in their faces when they came to him with the ludicrous proposal.

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    • Because Ailis I suspect Noonam will agree to the cap increase and say it is exceptional circumstances .

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    • Spot on. A nationalized bank equals tax payers money. Its sickening to see nothing changes. There will be a lot of people disgusted with Fine Gael if Noonan agrees to this. There are people losing their homes, unable to get loans for business, and who have lost most of their pensions due to the banks recklessness and illegal activities. Why on earth should our tax go towards paying another fat cat salary? People in these positions need to start proving via performance that they deserve more pay.

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  • Would performance related pay work?

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  • He should be paid in one 4 all vouchers.

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  • Why not just shut this useless money pit down?

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  • As a current AIB customer the idea of such a large salary being paid out to a bank that has failed it’s customers and country appalling. If the new CEO is paid above the current cap, which in my opinion is still outrageously high I will vote with my feet and close my account and move banks.

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  • Noonan, I hope the AIB board is now considering their position… putting such a stupid request in front of the minister of finance at this time. Get creative or get lost.

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  • Frank you have a point, pay peanuts get a monkey. But these guys have been well paid before and drove the banks into the ground. How do you suggest AIB/taxpayer protect against the excuse that the failure is not his fault but due to the global circumstances or government regulation. And finally walk off into the sunset with his tidy millions.

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  • And yet again I find myself asking: are we to believe they got the ‘best candidates’ when there was no limit to the potential salary? Last time I looked the former ‘best candidates’ for the CEO of AIB had a very significant role in destroying this country. Half a million p.a. is about 9,600 a week, or 30 times the minimum wage – and that ISN”T ENOUGH. Maybe if we appointed people for whom unimaginable avarice wasn’t the prime motivation in their life we wouldn’t be where we are today.

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  • Minister Noonan the Irish People are watching this space intensely. Burden sharing for all , a New Ireland remember and never forget !

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  • Just watch them row back on this one gutless

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  • Pardon my ignorance, Frank, but aren’t banks the world over errrrm, ….. f**ked? I think you’ll find they are, and are being bailed out left right and centre by joe public. Following on from that, how you say that any of the upper echelons of these banks have performed awell and are worthy of their salaries / bonuses etc? Why is running a bank different from running any other business?

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    • Would you have a retailer run an insurance company or vice versa?? Get real. Banking is a specific type of business like any other. And actually there are quite a few banks of the size of AIB & BOI being run just fine, they just dont make the headlines. This is coming from someone who works in a Bank & before you say it doesn’t earn a ‘banker’ salary. I’m just being realistic.

      Oh and by the way the committee appointed by the previous govt recommended any new CEO be paid a max of â

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    • You can either organise a company or you can’t – it’s a transferrable skill.

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    • Frank. Have you ever put money in another account to cover up that you haven’t enough? Sean Fitzpatrick did.

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  • Danny D 25/09/11 #

    why don’t they pay him €200,000 basic plus bonus, let’s say 5% of profits. If he makes good progress he may be up for a BIG pay out. If he won’t – he won’t…

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  • Given the state of the banking sector, perhaps it’s time the applicants for this job realised that all wages and salaries are on at very least a freeze and expected work is going up. In other words, like what the rest of us are experiencing. If the companies hiring are effectively in receivership, you can’t expect millions in salary. Infect, I’m sure there are ailing businesses across the country that would love to have cash magically appear so they can hire the expertise they need to help them trade out of their problems but, sadly, haven’t that luxury. The distances bank boards are still removed from the real world are breathtaking. There’s still no concept of dealing with the mess they’ve made themselves.

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  • i will take out my placard again, if anyone gets paid this hefty salary.
    many are suffering…young people emigrating…people committing suicide…others losing jobs, homes, partners and our country is on its knees.
    i dont actually know what i would do if this happened. i like to think i could…can i..can we???

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  • Bankers destroyed Capitalism & now want a pay rise to fix it. Get real you overpaid, deluded,self-important fools. You run a bank, it’s not brain surgery. Allow this Noonan & you can hang your head in shame.

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  • yeah agree with Ian above. Why dont they tell him and his cronies to p**s off. Half the north island of japan has been decimated and I am sure there are loads of bankers looking for work. Bring a Japanese guy, bet they would do it for 200k. What a witless bunch we have “in charge” of this hell hole

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  • are these idiots for real, 10 grand a week to run an organisation that should have been let go to the wall, if this was any other kind of business it would have been gone by now along with the other useless feckers who were(and still are in many cases) running our financial instatutions, dont we the tax payer have a say in this? after all its our money that is getting you out of the mire you created, if this is accepted then the people should stand up to this lilly livered goverment and demand a 98% tax on all saleries over 250 grand,with no loopholes or pension pots .

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  • Your apparent intellect is staggering. Best of luck.

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  • just unbelievable really cant believe this we are the laughing stock of the world

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  • 2000!! but what’s another "0"?

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  • give him 50k a year and over time and if he complains …..tell him he’s lucky enough to have a job

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  • Yes, we need the talent of an experienced CEO for AIB but as for paying him/her a very large guaranteed salary without proof of results…stoopid!

    Salary should remain at the cap plus a bonus related tightly to performance and requiring sanction of the minister. There should be an option not to pay any bonus if there is no improvement in the banks position.
    There can’t be too many bank CEO positions out there and we, the shareholders need to hold onto what leverage we have.

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  • no no no no no no…who actually needs. 20000 per day…cop on

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  • I think you all have really said it as I feel

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  • Donal,
    I hope they don’t row back on that one either, gutless (tip of the hat to Frank).

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  • This is the sort of greed that has us where we are in the first place. Should be shot down without consideration.

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  • You pay peanuts and you get monkeys, you pay truffles and you get pigs! It’s easy, cheaper is better. A bank holds your cash and loans it out for a modest fee, how hard can it be to oversee that??!!!

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  • Many of the commentators here perhaps need to consider the wider international context in which our banks exist. Not every bank in the world is nationalized as ours are, and not every bank is under political pressure to impose pay restrictions on its executives. All these banks compete with ours for talented execs. Our society insists, like in the comments above, on bankers feeling our pain because we came to their aid through nationalization. However nationalization also means we, the people, have a stake in the success or continued failure of these banks. They quicker they get back on their feet, the quicker we do too. So long as "we" own the banks, we should be concerned with AIB struggling to attract worthwhile applicants. If salaries must be capped, they must be so capped in a way that don’t immediately exclude all but the most desperate contenders. As earlier commentators suggested, paying truffles attracts pigs, paying peanuts attracts monkeys… We seemingly have capped at the peanut end of the spectrum, and there are already enough of those in charge of our money without complicity installing another. It’s in our collective interest that a balance is struck.

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    • The banking system has bonussed itself out of existence. Every tinker, tailor, soldier or whatever knows that radical reform is needed. The days of those open ended salaries is in the rear-view mirror. This whole global financial crisis has come about from light-touch or zero regulation, it’s now plainly obvious that the sector can’t be trusted with the keys when the whole house can come clattering down due to their actions. I can see where your point is coming from, but I contend that execs with enough “talent” to make these banks viable institutions can be employed for salaries within the cap (half a million euros a year, yes, half a million). If someone is unwilling to work for that amount, then they’re welcome to just f**k off somewhere else. If we ignore the causes and origins of our current woes and blindly perpetuate the system then we’ll have learned the sum total of nothing and will deserve kick in the teeth that comes our (or our children’s) way.

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    • Oh i certainly agree with you Gavin – there needs to be much more accountability in the sector – from banks themselves as well as regulators and government. Don’t get me wrong, I DON’T mean to advocate “the old way of doing things”. However what I worry about is whether we are actually have our finger on the pulse when we decide 500k is our ceiling. How does this compare with what else is out there in the context of the post-08 “new era”. Can we actually attract anyone of value or worth with this figure? PRESUMABLY if we could, AIB wouldn’t be asking to raise the price, as there is ABSOLUTELY no public or political appetite for it. If the government deciminated to us – the shareholders – the grounds and justification for setting 500k as the ceiling – I would rest easier on it. What kind of contracts are out there at the moment for execs who have a track record of turning around troubled institutions, and how does our offer compare? 500k is a lot of money to a lot of people – I’d be working a lifetime for it, but perception is all relative. Will 500k turn the head of someone likely to turn us around? If not then we the taxpayers are the ones shortchanged. The lack of availability of answers to such questions makes me wonder if 500k is less about a sound, reasoned decision to attract the kind of people we need, and more a political ploy; pandering to the chattering classes who would ignorantly cut off their nose to spite their faces if it meant hiring some half-wit on a bargain basement price in the name of social solidarity.

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    • You say “social solidarity” like it’s a bad thing.

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    • Don’t know what world you’re living in but in my world €500,00 salary per year is not peanuts!!!!

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    • Gavin – Social solidarity by all means, but balanced by realism. You earlier invited those who are capable but unwilling to conform to your valuation of the position to f*** off, this is precisely what we don’t need. We need capable people running what is our business, not f**king off anywhere else. We see this already in our health system, we qualify plenty of doctors annually but because there are better conditions elsewhere, they leave immediately at enormous loss to the taxpayer. The longer this position remain unfilled, the less credible a 500k base is – and as is evidenced by the majority of the comments in this thread, the public will decry fg/lab if they attempt to raise the ceiling in response to this. It’s a difficult and unpopular decision, but as I said cutting corners will only prolong this for everyone. Noonan at least hints at this fact when he suggests wiggle room in compelling circumstances. And Michelle, this isn’t about my world or your world, its about their world http://m.ft.com/cms/s/0/bb5b697a-95a6-11e0-8f82-00144feab49a.html

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  • Give them an inch and they’ll surely take a mile …. the morale of our nation shall plumb to new depths if this request isnt thrown out !!! It seems OUR Bankers are still as contemptous and deluded as ever before ….. greed is still rife !!

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    • I see, Will, some of the country’s top civil servants don’t like your rant. The 125 people who disliked your comment must never have been without a job, a good paying one at that too. May it always last for you.

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  • Cpm 25/09/11 #

    Irish Pride – I’m cringing at your attempted come-backs. Do yourself a favour, give up posting on this site, the only thing you’re doing is embarrassing yourself.

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  • @irish pride – perhaps a name change to "tw@t" should be considered. Fortunately it is you who do not speak for the people!

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  • It’s quite simple – you want AIB to return to profitability & get the Bank suitable for private sector investment & therefore repay the Pension Reserve Fund you need to pay someone with a banking track record capable of making this happen. Sorry folks, you won’t get someone suitable for the money you want. You settle for someone less capable & the government and therefore the taxpayer will be stuck with AIB for a long time to come. I await thumbs down aplenty.

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  • If the intention is for AIB to become a viable commercial bank once again then I see the logic in needing to pay a potential CEO more than the current cap. They have to operate in a market where other banks can easily offer a potential CEO millions, why would a candidate that for the top job in AIB take it when they could get paid a lot more in a bank elsewhere? There not going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts, they are serious people who do a stressful and difficult job.

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  • He,he Ireland is great ! )))

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  • FAS Work Placement Programme? :P

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  • @irishpride …. still a moron I see

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  • Frank is correct but there should be a new stipulation.. Performance related bonus, pay him 1 mill per annum and if he gets the bank rocking and rolling he/she deserves everything they get… Do not forget, soccer players with the IQ of a house fly earn on average 2.5 mill yearly, that’s without sponsorship deals.

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    • Frank is just proposing a perpetuation of the rationale which has Europe and America teetering on the brink of oblivion.

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    • “soccer players with the IQ of a house fly earn on average 2.5 mill yearly” What has that got to do with the price of prune juice? Actors can command 10 million/ movie. What’s their IQ?

      Looking to pay over the cap shows that no lessons have been learned, and the banks don’t give a s**t and us mushrooms can just sit back in the dark and have s**t thrown on us. Lets pay him 5 million, no, 10 million. Ahh who cares, there’s loads of money.

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    • Yeah, it was a poor analogy.

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